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Hi Isabelle,

Happy Holiday if you celebrate it...

Congrates on everything else too...

I have a question about FG and GR.. I have been taking maca in the morning, about 500mg for starters just for even out hormones and I feel it working and on this amount I am having some action in the titas..not sure if it is that or my added other things like biosil which I dont think is cause I just started that.. I started taking raw garlic too but what I have been taking is my veggie drink mix and I stopped taking a multi and my extra b's when taking these for some reason I found my hair loss was worse and my scalp was more oily.. since I started maca I have had no more hair problems so far and feeling overall pretty good.. I plan on taking a sup. at night of mag., zinc, and b6 cause I read that these help growth hormone factor and fat reduction.. anyway cant remember what else I changed but I am doing this mostly for skin, hair, bones just good health and want to start working out again to be fit, well I am getting a bigger belly so that is why I asked about the FG and GR.. oh what also helped my hair problem is I stopped using sulfies shampoos well I use low ones and only shampoo with them like once a week and use conditioner as my daily shampoo..

I have a question that has nothing to do with herbs ...but I plan on making my own mineral make up but wanted to know if any of these ingredients are harmful..Zinc oxides, Bron Nitride, Pure Silk, Organic Rice Powder, Kaolin and Iron Oxides... this is what I was going to use to make it..this is what I plan on using if iron oxides is bad, I plan on using kaolin clay in white, red, and green.. then add the zinc, and maybe pure silk, and allanton..

Thank you
Isabelle, I still do not have a topical for NBE, I saw this and wanted to know what you would think. One of the pictures has the ingredients. Or should I just buy a PM topical (most likely Ainterol's or Siriporn's). Thank you in advance Blush
Thank you Pansy Mae, and hi, Susan and Rosance,

Don't wash your hair too often in this season: my cat is shedding hair, and when the animals lose their winter furs, washing once a week is more than enough.

I think the iron oxides will look orange. Try making a nice brown with red and green kaolin, and lighten it up with zinc oxide white. You may have to wash some of the powders first. Boron nitride is usually grown in very small crystals, but something like zinc oxide is probably machined. If it smells like oil as they use it in a workshop, use a coffee filter and nail polish remover to get it out.

FG puts on weight. Use just the minimum amount you need to prevent estrogen dominance, and top up with GR until you get enough swelling. My black seed experiment is beginning to look good, too. What I read is true: it increases prolactin, slims the waist, and helps with weight loss, instead of putting on weight like FG.

That cream is expensive, and it mixes ingredients that you could use more economically by cycling, like milk thistle in follicular phase, and WY and PC in luteal.
Hey goodmorning Isabelle,

Thank you for the reply.. one more question.. will GR help with weighloss though..well in the waist area only..this in the only reason why I want to use it again, well tita swelling would be nice too.. does GR results stay like they say FG suppose to stay..

How would you clean a clay..it is powder..and using nail polish remover for the zinc oxide would that make it wet.. this formula is for a mineral foundation powder..

Thank you for your knowledge..
Thank you Isabelle! At that rate, I should just go for topical PM Dodgy
I am already taking FG, Fennel, and WY in luteal. And am on PM and FG on follicular. Do you think topical PM and pills can make me stall...Huh
Hi Susan,

My experience with both FG and GR is that I lose the swelling if I stop. Only several months of near permanent swelling becomes growth.

I wasn't losing weight on GR alone, only after I added black seed.

I thought you were going to make a liquid because of the allantoin. But for a powder, cleaning is also possible with nail polish remover because it evaporates. Be careful which one you choose: mostly acetone, but without the smell of technical grade acetone. No lanolin, because that will make the powder greasy and smelly.

Hi Rosance,

I don't believe topical PM is very effective. There is enough literature showing that it needs processing by the liver to work well.
(09-04-2012, 07:49 PM)Isabelle Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Susan,

My experience with both FG and GR is that I lose the swelling if I stop. Only several months of near permanent swelling becomes growth.

I wasn't losing weight on GR alone, only after I added black seed.

Hey girl.. ok so just swelling in general will become permanent.. hmmm thinking if my belly weight is from insullin sens...but I thought weight above the (lets go by the hip bone up) if your have there then that is insullin sens... my extra fat is..haha had to look..well i just have it at the hip bone area and above and below the belly button..ok to make it easier it looks like I am prego..so is this just fat that is related to insullin sens. or just fat...wondering if it is just from carbs not digesting correctly and need to clean the colon..I need something to make me more regular..GR will that help digestion..

I thought you were going to make a liquid because of the allantoin. But for a powder, cleaning is also possible with nail polish remover because it evaporates. Be careful which one you choose: mostly acetone, but without the smell of technical grade acetone. No lanolin, because that will make the powder greasy and smelly.

no powder..I believe allantoin comes in powder.. haha I think I will just use the products and not clean them sounds more dangerous..heck no..lanolin..thank you sooo much for helping me understand those ingredients.. going to be about another month til I make it though..

Hi Susan,

I don't know if GR helps digestion, but the fat moving to under your belly button is a very good sign. Insulin resistance deposits fat inside the abdomen, mainly above the belly button. Estrogens deposit fat outside the abdomen (you can squeeze it, like breasts or butt), below the belly button. So your program is working.

It's very difficult to grow breasts and butt without depositing some fat outside the abdomen below the belly button, because that works the same way: estrogen receptors accelerating cell growth and division. Consider it one of your feminine curves Smile
Hi Isabelle,
I am convinced by you about topical PM as well Tongue
Is there anything you would recommend as a topical?
Another thing,
I bought IGF-1+ to incorporate to my NBE. But since I am using it as a NBE product, do you have any recommendations on its dosages and when to take it?
Rosance, I have been looking at a lot of topicals, as well. I'll message you what I find when I finalize a list of what I think are the best ones! Smile