(08-11-2015, 07:34 PM)ellacraig Wrote: [ -> ] (08-11-2015, 03:04 PM)hannah Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=1442698
this article promotes vitex over pc cream..but the secret of the safe usage for pc lays in your hormonal balance and the usage of it.
Wow that was an interesting read Hannah.... I wonder who that poster is ie what's their profession? They sound very clued up though. According to them it's adrenals that promote balance .. Funnily enough when I was at that clinic naturopathic their whole initial treatment regime for me was trying to correct adrenal balAnce..
Tell you what it's reinforced my thoughts vitex over pc cream. But also the bitters for liver function
sorry for my late reply..I was very interested too in the adrenal thing probably wrote by an naturapath indeed(i should read it again):p,I wanted to research it but had a lack of time.. do you know what kind of bitter detox herbs they mean in the article?
what do you guys mean by build up? I have an understanding that PC gets stored in the fat or something? is that what you mean by build up? is that bad for us?
have you guys noticed a spike in your progesterone levels since taking vitex as you would with taking PC? what mg do you guys take? (sorry so many Qs!)
(12-11-2015, 04:26 AM)missboobshirt Wrote: [ -> ]what do you guys mean by build up? I have an understanding that PC gets stored in the fat or something? is that what you mean by build up? is that bad for us?
have you guys noticed a spike in your progesterone levels since taking vitex as you would with taking PC? what mg do you guys take? (sorry so many Qs!)
From what I understand it stores in the body and can take months to leave so with each application your adding more and more. Where as I guess vitex promotes our production in accordance with our needs, an adaptogen of sorts... Encouraging our own bodies to produce p, not supplying it with p whether we need it or not. I talk in circles but Hannah might explain it better for you
I noticed nothing really when taking vitex, but I think it stopped the spotting on the cycle I used it.
I heard taking over around 100mg is counter productive to nbe. I take a weak extract when I remember.
(12-11-2015, 04:26 AM)missboobshirt Wrote: [ -> ]what do you guys mean by build up? I have an understanding that PC gets stored in the fat or something? is that what you mean by build up? is that bad for us?
have you guys noticed a spike in your progesterone levels since taking vitex as you would with taking PC? what mg do you guys take? (sorry so many Qs!)
Yes it stores in fat cells, and the thing is it takes months to leave, so if we get P-dominant from using pc cream now...we'll might not be rid of it for the first 6months to come..because we've build up a supply of P which is stored and we cant decide when to release it. This quarter can fall to all kinds of sides...I read bout somebody who've gone from p-dominance into high testosteron(due to p-conversion..p can become e or t..you know all that conversion talk)
Im still using PC now, but will soon replace it with chasteberry so dont know the mgs yet... so for now while Im using it...it is very important to drink enough green tea(anti-androgen) and prevent to much storage(by using little cream once a day and not every day.)
But vitex works with adrenals so I think for vitex to be effective(dont know the unknown info out there,im not that educated on vitex) we should take more measures,do everything for good working adrenals..maybe Ella knows something bout that..seeing your Naturopath was talking about this..
Thanks for that link! geez that really sucks, maybe that is why my cycle got messed up? :/ I think you guys convinced me I will switch to Vitex as well--
http://www.womenfitness.net/breastEnlarg...herbs1.htm
this one says about 400mg-- I usually buy herbs at 500 or 525mg so maybe I'll look into that. Thanks guys, its good to know.
(12-11-2015, 12:58 PM)hannah Wrote: [ -> ]Bitter herbs,adrenal support:
http://www.motherearthliving.com/health-...pport.aspx
(licorice is one of them,think ill getback to that soon,combined with asian ginseng ive used before and gave me energy..add abit of chasteberry..hmm
)
Yeh your right there. Maybe it is all about adrenals.
But licorice is good yeh, just the estrogen part to licorice that freaks me out. actually found this
http://www.maximumwellbeing.com/shop/Str...ula-2.html
See the ingredients. This is a highly rated adrenal tonic over here. I'm going to get some.
(12-11-2015, 06:42 PM)ellacraig Wrote: [ -> ] (12-11-2015, 12:58 PM)hannah Wrote: [ -> ]Bitter herbs,adrenal support:
http://www.motherearthliving.com/health-...pport.aspx
(licorice is one of them,think ill getback to that soon,combined with asian ginseng ive used before and gave me energy..add abit of chasteberry..hmm )
Yeh your right there. Maybe it is all about adrenals.
But licorice is good yeh, just the estrogen part to licorice that freaks me out. actually found this
http://www.maximumwellbeing.com/shop/Str...ula-2.html
See the ingredients. This is a highly rated adrenal tonic over here. I'm going to get some.
Let me know if you start ''the adrenal route''. I am actually still massaging with pm and pc..im not yet ready to throw this program in the garbage since they seem to fill in again..hope its not another fluctuation. I also gained about 1,5 kilo just this month,amazing for me, im at 54 kgs now.
Though Ill try to replace pc for vitex asap.
And I have found another NBE goodie..
.. dried algues! Im happy to share this one..Its a rich source of omega3 but only the benefits without the heavy metals youll find in omega 3 fish oil..and its for all ages!(dunno how exactly to feed this powder to a 2 y.o, but son will get it too,victim of love)
I've seen this one too for adrenal support if you're interested
. I think swanson is a good brand too.
I'm thinking about taking it but not sure if it can be taken with PM - I assume it can since the adrenals don't affect estrogen but I'll do some more reading
http://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson-p...mg-60-caps