(14-09-2015, 08:47 AM)ELLACRAIG Wrote: [ -> ] (14-09-2015, 08:31 AM)Hannah14 Wrote: [ -> ] (14-09-2015, 07:55 AM)ELLACRAIG Wrote: [ -> ] (14-09-2015, 07:25 AM)Hannah14 Wrote: [ -> ] (13-09-2015, 08:11 PM)ELLACRAIG Wrote: [ -> ]Not a researched one 
a guesstimate would be that how many females on here start PM only to come back and say its caused cycle issues, too long or too short, spotting inbetween etc. That's not even taking into play PC. Id blame PM personally.
So you've read PM could cause prolongued cycles? I only read about spotting and shortened cycles.. It was kind off what I was prepared for but now the opposite is happening.
Well no not specifically but just read on here girls having all sorts of bloody issues on pm. Doesn't seem worth the hassle I reckon..
Well not unless you've tested and really need the boost ya know.. That aside I understand the need to try it.nalmost done it many times myself but I look at how the other herbs fkd up my cycle and am like no effing way. I may do the macadamia nut massage etc. you shud ask granny what foods did she eat growing up??
Unfortunatly I dont see her anymore. But I know.. she eats lots of cooked potatoes, vegetables cooked and dark green vegggies, Lot of fruits like orange juice apples. Lots of dried foods especially apricots. Every morning she eats an egg with bread. She's not consuming much milk but does consume LOTS of icecream and other milky desserts. And many nuts and she likes booze as well.(quite strong booze, you know the shots) Oh and very important, she is stuffing everything she;s preparing with dairy butter..(bread, she bakes her meat in it she is pouring it over the potatoes in a ''dish gravy''.)
And another pro aromatse/ estrogenic candy she is enjoying A LOT as well is liqourice. And mints which might be her anti androgen. But she also has ZERO body hair..:S
Further she's a happy and bright personality often enjoying the sun(+vitd?) And I cant imagine her ever beeing depressed or even slightly depressed, I think the woman is born to be happy and wonder if she ever in her live experienced stress like we do daily.
Well she's got good genes if she eats like that. Mind you olden days dairy wasn't toxic as it is today. Wonder if it's the licorice too..
Apricots are estrogenic too. Then you have Liqourice anti-A and pro-A.
Then many nuts especially macadamia's(anti-a+ pro-a) and cashews.
VitD is good for hormones and she eats plenty off fatty acids.
And strong booze also pro-Aromatase.
But genes must play a role as well..
(14-09-2015, 07:22 AM)Hannah14 Wrote: [ -> ] (14-09-2015, 01:35 AM)Dfleurs Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Hannah,
Speaking of my personal experience for taking PM . I took 1-2 drops of extract. It did not messed up my cycle at all. But i got all others side effects like pimples, belly fat, mood swing, weight gain. So i stopped taking it and all the side effects are gone now. Right now im looking for other estrogen herbs that has mild side effects.
So when u take PM together with PC, it didnt bring ur cycle back to normal? I thought PC supposed to balance out the cycle if taken with PM? Or maybe i got the wrong understanding.
Hi Dfleurs,
Well far before ever starting NBE my cycle was usually 28 days every month the same very regular. But since starting NBE its a total irregular mess I go from 22 days to 24 days and my last cycle lasted 26 days. I'm now on day 28 and I dont know if its a possibility that my cycle will last longer. I myself am very unknown with cycles that last longer then 28 days..
But I started PC this month on day 14 and maybe thats the cause..Maybe I've been lengthening my cycle with it..
Hi Hannah,
yes i read many girls here have the same issues with messed up cycle. so you think PC make it worse? Do you consider to try vitex?
So after 38 days I finally got my menses today. I was totally freaked out and thought I was pregnant. I have a fetal doppler at home and searched for a heartbeat but there was none luckily. So I really dont know how to use pc-cream this cycle since I NEVER in my life experienced a cycle longer then 28 days. My previous cycles even lasted 24 and 26 days. But I'm very happy I got my menses
Yay!
(21-09-2015, 01:05 PM)Hannah14 Wrote: [ -> ]So after 38 days I finally got my menses today. I was totally freaked out and thought I was pregnant. I have a fetal doppler at home and searched for a heartbeat but there was none luckily. So I really dont know how to use pc-cream this cycle since I NEVER in my life experienced a cycle longer then 28 days. My previous cycles even lasted 24 and 26 days. But I'm very happy I got my menses Yay!
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(21-09-2015, 01:05 PM)Hannah14 Wrote: [ -> ]So after 38 days I finally got my menses today. I was totally freaked out and thought I was pregnant. I have a fetal doppler at home and searched for a heartbeat but there was none luckily. So I really dont know how to use pc-cream this cycle since I NEVER in my life experienced a cycle longer then 28 days. My previous cycles even lasted 24 and 26 days. But I'm very happy I got my menses Yay!
That's good you got it.
Whats a fetal dropper? Why do it have one?
(21-09-2015, 08:22 PM)ELLACRAIG Wrote: [ -> ] (21-09-2015, 01:05 PM)Hannah14 Wrote: [ -> ]So after 38 days I finally got my menses today. I was totally freaked out and thought I was pregnant. I have a fetal doppler at home and searched for a heartbeat but there was none luckily. So I really dont know how to use pc-cream this cycle since I NEVER in my life experienced a cycle longer then 28 days. My previous cycles even lasted 24 and 26 days. But I'm very happy I got my menses Yay!
That's good you got it.
Whats a fetal dropper? Why do it have one?
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Fetal Doppler, not dropper:
http://www.babybeat.com/fetal-dopplers.h...aQodA9oGOg
(21-09-2015, 08:22 PM)ELLACRAIG Wrote: [ -> ] (21-09-2015, 01:05 PM)Hannah14 Wrote: [ -> ]So after 38 days I finally got my menses today. I was totally freaked out and thought I was pregnant. I have a fetal doppler at home and searched for a heartbeat but there was none luckily. So I really dont know how to use pc-cream this cycle since I NEVER in my life experienced a cycle longer then 28 days. My previous cycles even lasted 24 and 26 days. But I'm very happy I got my menses Yay!
That's good you got it.
Whats a fetal dropper? Why do it have one?
Yes I am so happyt and surpirsed because I really thought Pm induced early ovulation or something and got me pregnant. And after 38 days.. I mean what the hell do you expect? The last time I had a 28 day cycle is even months ago so let alone this long.. I nevr sexperienced a cycle so long. It did gave me the oppurtunity to gain some more weight since these bleedings suckk nutrition. And I thought the weight was from beeing pregnant too.. But all together I think Pc-cream has caused this.. Estrogen is clearly related to shorter cycles. So I supoose PC-cream does the opposite?..
But I like PC, since it gave me swelling... My first idea is to start pc earlier then on day 14... What do you think? Or will it mess me up more..
Anyhow I have the doppler because I was scared to see a misscariage on the doctors echo(I had that once) and I was pregnant of son so I bought that device to be sure everything in there was alright! You can listen to the baby's heart with the device.
Oh and I btw listened to a estrogenic isochronic tones yesterday..I really did not thought I would ever talk about this kind off stuff. But maybe I'm into it now...
Found this about pc cream usage according to menstruation - if a regular cycle is present, apply cream twice daily from ovulation for the next 14 days, bleeding should occur within a day or two. The luteal phase is always 12 - 14 days in all women, any less and it is known as a 'defective luteal phase'. Cycles vary from 21 days to 36 days. For example in a 21 day cycle the cream should be used from day 8 for 14 days, if a 28 day cycle from day 15 for 14 days and if a 36 days cycle from day 22 for 14 days. Use 100-200mg/3-6ml per day, more maybe needed depending on how severe symptoms are.
http://www.progesterone-info.com/first-time-users.html
But I also found out that pc-cream is often used to lengthen the Luteal phase, which obviously happened to me I lengthened my cycle with about 14 days!!..
So now I'm a bit confused about how to combine it with PM as I have to start the pc way earlier then on day 14 which I did this cycle until day 21.
But will take it from day 7 since my ovulation day is day 8.
Yeah, I gained another big kilo, i'm 53.6kgs now
I think PM has helped me out with that. I actually feel good taking PM maybe its just what I need, I hope all changes are permanent.
It took me 6 months to get from 49kgs to this
I had several setbacks..
It feels like I've finally landed in this positive vibe where all good things happen to me and my life..Things are going much easier atm thats for sure.So hopefully I can push trough now and be at 55kgs(NOT my end goal) in about 1-2 months.
But one note..since PM it feels like my mammary glands are getting smaller. I'm used to hearing from BF that my glands are actually quite big, bigger then with most women(or so ive heard). But now they are supersmall suddenly and it seems like its getiing replaced by fatty tissue...
Well as long as they dont get smaller I'm fine with it.