(26-07-2015, 12:10 AM)pom19 Wrote: [ -> ] (26-07-2015, 12:06 AM)hannah14 Wrote: [ -> ] (26-07-2015, 12:02 AM)pom19 Wrote: [ -> ] (25-07-2015, 11:57 PM)hannah14 Wrote: [ -> ] (25-07-2015, 11:52 PM)missboobshirt Wrote: [ -> ]thats a good link pom! thank you, I feel like you know so much about all this natural stuff 
hannah, if your breast feel deflated it could be because you switched from flax to coconut, flax has natural phytoestrogens and can be absorbed through the skin into the blood stream. Now your body is lacking the estrogen effect caused by flax-- could be why 
Thats a good theory thank you for thinking along girl
But I dont use flax for about 3-4 months now and It just started this week. I also started to upping my dose of fenugreek to about 1600MG. And I think that could be it?*opinions are welcome* Maybe the upping in prolactin..
I'm sometimes so tired of this difficult jigsaw puzzle.
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Hannah, didn't start PC recently? If yes, then either do not take any FG or just about 600mg. Breast needs progestrone.
No I did not started yet.. because I had some doubts which are gone again
..I was scared of side-effects. But do you recommend me taking pc along with fenugreek?
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I would take one cap/day only plus PC and watch your body to see how it reacts. You may not even need FG. You know I truly believe in the less the better.
Yes I do to, But I'm in this for so long already and feel the urge to push trough you know. I'm getting al itchy and annoyed when I think about how long I'm trying to gain back that weight I once had. I always weighted in the 60 kgs and now its just 52.. And I've done a lot to get to 52 I was 49 at one certain point(in March). And I thought in that time that I could reach 56 this summer.
So I think I am in the vicious circle of not producing enough hormones because I'm underweight so I dont have the tissue on my body for producing hormones.
I mean hormones lead to breast growth in the end right?
One way or another I just think my body needs a push or a agressive wake up.. I just feel like the soft-natural approach doesnt do enough, and I need to pop more herbs in it to get over this dead point.
(26-07-2015, 12:26 AM)hannah14 Wrote: [ -> ] (26-07-2015, 12:10 AM)pom19 Wrote: [ -> ] (26-07-2015, 12:06 AM)hannah14 Wrote: [ -> ] (26-07-2015, 12:02 AM)pom19 Wrote: [ -> ] (25-07-2015, 11:57 PM)hannah14 Wrote: [ -> ]Thats a good theory thank you for thinking along girl But I dont use flax for about 3-4 months now and It just started this week. I also started to upping my dose of fenugreek to about 1600MG. And I think that could be it?*opinions are welcome* Maybe the upping in prolactin..
I'm sometimes so tired of this difficult jigsaw puzzle.
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Hannah, didn't start PC recently? If yes, then either do not take any FG or just about 600mg. Breast needs progestrone.
No I did not started yet.. because I had some doubts which are gone again..I was scared of side-effects. But do you recommend me taking pc along with fenugreek?
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I would take one cap/day only plus PC and watch your body to see how it reacts. You may not even need FG. You know I truly believe in the less the better.
Yes I do to, But I'm in this for so long already and feel the urge to push trough you know. I'm getting al itchy and annoyed when I think about how long I'm trying to gain back that weight I once had. I always weighted in the 60 kgs and now its just 52.. And I've done a lot to get to 52 I was 49 at one certain point(in March). And I thought in that time that I could reach 56 this summer.
So I think I am in the vicious circle of not producing enough hormones because I'm underweight so I dont have the tissue on my body for producing hormones.
I mean hormones lead to breast growth in the end right?
One way or another I just think my body needs a push or a agressive wake up.. I just feel like the soft-natural approach doesnt do enough, and I need to pop more herbs in it to get over this dead point.
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Just listen to your body, you should be fine. No one knows yourself more than yourself.
I know how you feel about the jigsaw.. it's annoying.
Hannah are you E dom? also are you taking these things at the right time in your cycle? trust me, try the PC! what do you have to lose? it made me a little dizzy starting off but 2nd time around I am fine-- use it during bed time to get yourself used to it
Only use PC during your luteal phase! and Fenu should be used during follicular phase. If you're noticing that Fenu is making your chest deflate it could very well be that you are E dom- I had high hopes for Fenu because I thought it would up prolactin and it just made my breast shrink horribly-- the same thing happened to me with PM- I now take no phythoestrogens at ALL! I am just using Maca and PC atm.
I am not sure how it will work for you because everyone is different but from what I am gathering it sounds like you will have better results focusing on your P since you've focused so much on your E! Pom is right, breasts health involves more than one hormone and P is a big part of them!
I am going to reply to this in the PM you just sent
(26-07-2015, 03:49 AM)hannah14 Wrote: [ -> ] (26-07-2015, 03:30 AM)missboobshirt Wrote: [ -> ]I know how you feel about the jigsaw.. it's annoying.
Hannah are you E dom? also are you taking these things at the right time in your cycle? trust me, try the PC! what do you have to lose? it made me a little dizzy starting off but 2nd time around I am fine-- use it during bed time to get yourself used to it
Only use PC during your luteal phase! and Fenu should be used during follicular phase. If you're noticing that Fenu is making your chest deflate it could very well be that you are E dom- I had high hopes for Fenu because I thought it would up prolactin and it just made my breast shrink horribly-- the same thing happened to me with PM- I now take no phythoestrogens at ALL! I am just using Maca and PC atm.
I am not sure how it will work for you because everyone is different but from what I am gathering it sounds like you will have better results focusing on your P since you've focused so much on your E! Pom is right, breasts health involves more than one hormone and P is a big part of them!
Thank you so much for your encouraging message. It is one struggle especially because I'm at a low weight atm, which made me think I was lacking estrogen. But seeing my past figure was way more curvy, no wonder with 10kgs more..It is possible I'm e-dominant, I show some signs. And the fenu I am taking in follicular are really causing me shrinkage I guess.. They look so deflated suddenly and I massaged with the fenu too and straight after that I saw deflation and nipple change a little bit extra aureola it seems. But if the PC works then Im sure. I'll start it asap, but where do you put the cream? I read that straight on the breasts could cause shrinkage? I dont want more shrinkage, then there want be much left anymore, lol:p
PC Application:
Premenopausal Women:
Cycle from day 12 to 26 (day 1 is first day of period) by applying 1/2 teaspoon daily to chest, stomach or abdomen. Do not apply on nipples.
I'm trying vitex tea. But not daily as I take too much already. I am fairly certain my e is too high. So going to lay off fenugreek too unless my digestion slows again because it does help. I've been told by two naturopaths vitex is the way to go. It's not as quick or concentrated however
(26-07-2015, 06:38 AM)ELLACRAIG Wrote: [ -> ]I'm trying vitex tea. But not daily as I take too much already. I am fairly certain my e is too high. So going to lay off fenugreek too unless my digestion slows again because it does help. I've been told by two naturopaths vitex is the way to go. It's not as quick or concentrated however
I hope the Vitex will work for you. What do you think you notice from the high E? I'm still going to finish my bottle of fenugreek because I still hope on some weight-gainings with it. It does make me feel relaxed..I dont have that bloating anymore, and I seem to be able to eat a lot without that full exploding belly feel.
But I'm soon adding the PC-cream with it.. Cant wait, I a so curious!
I still use the coconutoil and it was just like wap said.. Your belly gets wonky a couple off times and now i'm totally adjusted to it and it works great. I feel a lot better, it feels like a good and easy form of energy for my body. Its also known for its quick availability in the body, so its the first thing I eat in the morning.
Ok Hannah. Spoke to naturopath. She said lemon water good. No mention of bitters. She doesn't "think" fenugreek is estrogenic in nature and it was listed as an appetite stimulant blood sugar etc in her manuals. But I think we go with out gut on FG.