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(25-09-2013, 05:00 AM)tibetan113 Wrote: [ -> ]I have recently measured! My butt and hips are smaller, lol! I know its because of the progesterone shifting things around. I have a decrease slightly in my underbust too! Everything is shifting except for my waistSad
Bust (day 12): 35. 5"
Under bust: just under 26.5/8
waist: 24.5"
butt/hips: 36.25"

Look at that tiny waist! If only! Tongue And I am surprised about your butt/hip measurement. Well all that matters in the end is how it looks, and from the looks of it lady, it sho' look fiiiiiiine. lol! But seriously, it does look really nice.

I am curious, due to the "progesterone shifting things around," are your legs trimmer, too? I've recently been schooled on the nature of a pear shape and how more P is what we need because we either have too much E or too much T... I of course would be the latter... which explains why PM didn't work for me as my beginning program. And if I remember correctly you were E dom? I... hope that an increase in P and a decrease in T doesn't result in a smaller butt! I think I would cry!
Smile@Timarie, thank you. I think it may be due to weight lossHuh
I am 2lbs less and what sucks is that my waist won't thin as easily as my butt. But the good news is, the boobs are still there, growing.

I guess we'll see what's to come. I was low in all hormones and even T, but my androgens were the highest. So I think I was the lowest in either T then P or P then T.
I have had high progesterone with estrogen and had much bottom but no top so I would assume it can go the other way. I think its just what hormone you are sensitive to. I wonder about T and P levels dominating one another. I guess will have to wait and see with you, huhHuh

On a side note, I noticed my darkened areolas have flattened a bit! I think I'm on the verge of stage V Tanner. Now, if I could just grow another cup, I'd be at my goal and go on maintenance.


(25-09-2013, 06:32 AM)timarie Wrote: [ -> ]
(25-09-2013, 05:00 AM)tibetan113 Wrote: [ -> ]I have recently measured! My butt and hips are smaller, lol! I know its because of the progesterone shifting things around. I have a decrease slightly in my underbust too! Everything is shifting except for my waistSad
Bust (day 12): 35. 5"
Under bust: just under 26.5/8
waist: 24.5"
butt/hips: 36.25"

Look at that tiny waist! If only! Tongue And I am surprised about your butt/hip measurement. Well all that matters in the end is how it looks, and from the looks of it lady, it sho' look fiiiiiiine. lol! But seriously, it does look really nice.

I am curious, due to the "progesterone shifting things around," are your legs trimmer, too? I've recently been schooled on the nature of a pear shape and how more P is what we need because we either have too much E or too much T... I of course would be the latter... which explains why PM didn't work for me as my beginning program. And if I remember correctly you were E dom? I... hope that an increase in P and a decrease in T doesn't result in a smaller butt! I think I would cry!


Today is day 15 and the second day (Cycle *14) of foll. river flowing (ovulation starting). I stopped low low dose of pm drops which were like 6. I stopped my pc roughly 20mg (dr. prescribed) on day 12. Ill most likely resume my low dose pc every other day if I feel I need it. Maybe cease the PM drops and try BB cream!

I'm excited to try it out. Or maybe my own PM cream. Ahh, I'm torn, I feel like the hormones in BB might be superior to even PM. I hate reading about how the effects of PM at moderate doses are not permanent when stopped as its strong like BC, once you get off it, you lose a half cup to a cup!

Not liking the sound of that one bit, I hope its just a marketing ploy for some companies that sell it. Better yet, Ill wait till when I find out if my E is still low, or not. I may or may not need it if BB is doin' its thang.
My breasts feel nice and hot! I have mallowy breasts as opposed to the ovulation swelling that shows up. I guess I am not sensitive to luteal phase hormones at the moment. I am going to try to get some luteal swelling with the pumping tomorrow.

Made some chicken feet soup. I am going to sip and pump. My bigger breast is outgrowing the other againDodgy

I got one more cup and a half, I hope I get at least half by the end of next cycle.
Hi tibetan´s princess!
I´m new here! you seems to be experienced!
I was reading your post and I was wondering if you have tried fenugreek before. Your growth is amazing!!

Bye! Blush
(30-09-2013, 04:14 PM)maaryy Wrote: [ -> ]Hi tibetan´s princess!
I´m new here! you seems to be experienced!
I was reading your post and I was wondering if you have tried fenugreek before. Your growth is amazing!!

Bye! Blush

Hi Maary! Welcome to the forum! and thank youWink I have used fenugreek years ago when I did my first attempt. It wasn't good for me because of my low blood sugar. So I had hypoglycemic spells. So I did not give it as much time as I'd like to have.

Day 18*cycle 14, On a side note, I am measuring on my off pumping day here in luteal, 35.75! The strange thing is, this is the first in so long that I have not a bit of luteal swellingHuh

Is this common while growing? I feel like I am hoarding tiny little fat cells to collect and over time will eventually be noticeable. They feel mallowy still, like liquid soft breasts. This happens once in a blue moon for me. I never know what to make of this...

I am more consistent with the pumping of every other day to every two days.
I am laughing cause, I have so much top tissue and not much on the bottom coming in, it looks fucking hideous at times. The more I hear about the scoliosis/tuberous deformity connection, the more I believe this is the culprit for the way they sit on my chest. BTW, I showed one of my large busted friend's my progress photos and she thinks they look fake like I got them done, lol!

I made chicken feet broth and it came out better than the last couple of times though its been about 8 months since I made it. I used about 7-8 chicken feet and leached the gelatin from it TCM way, brewed for hours.



(30-09-2013, 04:25 PM)tibetan113 Wrote: [ -> ]
(30-09-2013, 04:14 PM)maaryy Wrote: [ -> ]Hi tibetan´s princess!
I´m new here! you seems to be experienced!
I was reading your post and I was wondering if you have tried fenugreek before. Your growth is amazing!!

Bye! Blush

Hi Maary! Welcome to the forum! and thank youWink I have used fenugreek years ago when I did my first attempt. It wasn't good for me because of my low blood sugar. So I had hypoglycemic spells. So I did not give it as much time as I'd like to have.

Day 18*cycle 14, On a side note, I am measuring on my off pumping day here in luteal, 35.75! The strange thing is, this is the first in so long that I have not a bit of luteal swellingHuh

Is this common while growing? I feel like I am hoarding tiny little fat cells to collect and over time will eventually be noticeable. They feel mallowy still, like liquid soft breasts. This happens once in a blue moon for me. I never know what to make of this...

I am more consistent with the pumping of every other day to every two days.
I am laughing cause, I have so much top tissue and not much on the bottom coming in, it looks fucking hideous at times. The more I hear about the scoliosis/tuberous deformity connection, the more I believe this is the culprit for the way they sit on my chest. BTW, I showed one of my large busted friend's my progress photos and she thinks they look fake like I got them done, lol!

I made chicken feet broth and it came out better than the last couple of times though its been about 8 months since I made it. I used about 7-8 chicken feet and leached the gelatin from it TCM way, brewed for hours.

Hi tibetan!!

I saw that you eat a lot of healthy food! I´m trying to change my feeding too! I will add chicken feet next week! But it´s so hard to find it here! Probably i will have to buy the whole chicken!

you are in BO program right? Do you think BO is the major cause of your growth? Since you couldn´t take fenugreek. I was reading your thread and I couldn´t find your last program
(before you started again) So I´m a little bit lost!

Do you think I might add BO in my herbal program without problem?
Sorry for this amount of questions!Blush

Bye!! Success!!


(01-10-2013, 11:51 PM)maaryy Wrote: [ -> ]
(30-09-2013, 04:25 PM)tibetan113 Wrote: [ -> ]
(30-09-2013, 04:14 PM)maaryy Wrote: [ -> ]Hi tibetan´s princess!
I´m new here! you seems to be experienced!
I was reading your post and I was wondering if you have tried fenugreek before. Your growth is amazing!!

Bye! Blush

Hi Maary! Welcome to the forum! and thank youWink I have used fenugreek years ago when I did my first attempt. It wasn't good for me because of my low blood sugar. So I had hypoglycemic spells. So I did not give it as much time as I'd like to have.

Day 18*cycle 14, On a side note, I am measuring on my off pumping day here in luteal, 35.75! The strange thing is, this is the first in so long that I have not a bit of luteal swellingHuh

Is this common while growing? I feel like I am hoarding tiny little fat cells to collect and over time will eventually be noticeable. They feel mallowy still, like liquid soft breasts. This happens once in a blue moon for me. I never know what to make of this...

I am more consistent with the pumping of every other day to every two days.
I am laughing cause, I have so much top tissue and not much on the bottom coming in, it looks fucking hideous at times. The more I hear about the scoliosis/tuberous deformity connection, the more I believe this is the culprit for the way they sit on my chest. BTW, I showed one of my large busted friend's my progress photos and she thinks they look fake like I got them done, lol!

I made chicken feet broth and it came out better than the last couple of times though its been about 8 months since I made it. I used about 7-8 chicken feet and leached the gelatin from it TCM way, brewed for hours.

Hi tibetan!!

I saw that you eat a lot of healthy food! I´m trying to change my feeding too! I will add chicken feet next week! But it´s so hard to find it here! Probably i will have to buy the whole chicken!

you are in BO program right? Do you think BO is the major cause of your growth? Since you couldn´t take fenugreek. I was reading your thread and I couldn´t find your last program
(before you started again) So I´m a little bit lost!

Do you think I might add BO in my herbal program without problem?
Sorry for this amount of questions!Blush

Bye!! Success!!


If you are in the states, try whole foods, they can special order them. I have to eat paleo/raw because of my autoimmune diseases so this is a must for me. I am just starting back up on the chicken feet since we are looking at winter here soon. I plan on making it once a week if I can.Big Grin

Yes, my BO program is start page is stated in my sig. I truly believe yes, BO is what made me grow. My other program attempts were years ago and never documented on here.

As far as BO for you, I took my hormone panel and got my results which led me to believe BO was what I needed at the time since my periods were non existent. I cannot tell you if its what you need. Typically, you don't take other herbs when taking BO, but if you need it, then that's just fine. So I suggest either getting a panel done to see if its what you need period and then think about the herbs if its not enough. But I wouldn't just add BO to what you are taking right now. Besides, if you haven't been on your program for at least six months, don't switch just yet.
Thanks tibetan!

I´m planning on add BO next year (january).
I will keep up only with my herb program till december, the I add BO.
My fenugreek and fennel seeds wil last for at least 2 year! lol

I was looking for follicular and lutheal phase. Do you base your program on it too?

Bye!!Shy
Well Mary, I went by my tests and only go by them from here on out. I have my hunches on what and when I need certain herbs, but I do use my cycle as a basis for these things so yes, but I always consider my hormonal needs first, if that makes any sense. I wish you luck on your current program Wink

My breasts seem more symmetrical these days. Hopefully its not a fluke this time. Maybe one just grows faster than the other? But when it catches up, the other starts growing again... Similar has happened to Doll.