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Thanks Sweatpea!

(29-09-2012, 08:55 PM)NotSoBusty Wrote: [ -> ]WOW! They look amazing!! Smile You have amazing shape. Congrats! What size are you now?

Hey NoSoBusty, Thank you! I am still just a B Cup. It has been a stall for months! Maybe this is it? But then again, I still have pointyness and slight puff to the areolas. So I think I have more to grow if I am persistent. My growth spurt to a B cup was 3 weeks so I know it can happen again.

Having low hormone output is the death of growth! But I am noticing some growth or hoarding of fat on the tops. So this could be the next phase?


Why does it seem like it takes forever to get to cup C!
They are looking great, and,

(29-09-2012, 11:13 PM)tibetan113 Wrote: [ -> ]Why does it seem like it takes forever to get to cup C!

Same reason that B took longer from A than AA to A... Each subsequent cup size is actually an order of magnitude more of new growth. That growth does not generally accelerate all that much, whatever your genetically programmed growth rate is, that's your growth rate, same as any kind of "growth rate", it does fluctuate slightly, but it's always AROUND something. Certain subliminals makers seem to think they can change this programming, but I'm still cynical about that.

All we're trying to do here is to trick our bodies into thinking we're still in puberty and it's still time to grow. We still do our growing at whatever rate we're programmed to do so at.
(30-09-2012, 01:57 AM)AbiDrew85 Wrote: [ -> ]They are looking great, and,

(29-09-2012, 11:13 PM)tibetan113 Wrote: [ -> ]Why does it seem like it takes forever to get to cup C!

Same reason that B took longer from A than AA to A... Each subsequent cup size is actually an order of magnitude more of new growth. That growth does not generally accelerate all that much, whatever your genetically programmed growth rate is, that's your growth rate, same as any kind of "growth rate", it does fluctuate slightly, but it's always AROUND something. Certain subliminals makers seem to think they can change this programming, but I'm still cynical about that.

All we're trying to do here is to trick our bodies into thinking we're still in puberty and it's still time to grow. We still do our growing at whatever rate we're programmed to do so at.

Thank you Abi!

Its funny that you say that, because, I was thinking the same thing, I sware it took eons to go from my buds in highschool to a full A cup(age 21). I think its gonna be the same for me in the next phase but hopefully not years! I look forward to your journey. If you already have a feminine frame, you are gonna do well!
(30-09-2012, 03:02 AM)tibetan113 Wrote: [ -> ]I look forward to your journey. If you already have a feminine frame, you are gonna do well!

Thanks! I certainly hope so! To be fair though, I'm somewhere in-betweenie on my frame. It's much much slighter than a typical mans, and slighter than many women, but it's very very broad in the upper chest and shoulders, though it's also quite broad in the hips. By slightness I mean bone density and muscle mass. I have very little of either. I have my pet theories on why my body never really developed fully in either direction... Dodgy

I do have a horridly mannish face and ridiculous amounts of body hair that I'm at CONSTANT war with, though. Seriously. No lie. I actually scared a little girl in the ladies the other day. Because of my damned face. Sad

I'd say I'm probably somewhere about halfway between an atypically slight male frame and a "perfectly" feminine frame. I'm far too broad up top. But this could just mean I'll go hourglass more easily than many... Blush

Who knows! Especially if I get a corset or two... I'd kinda like one mostly white and one mostly black to put a little variety into my outfits! Big Grin

They do have to be completely greyscale though, for school. And quite possibly for most any salon I'd end up working at in the nearest future after graduating and getting my cos license. Big Grin
Oh wow. I just noticed. That last pic is a 32B? Wow. Can't wait to see what a 32C looks like since that's kinda my present target!
You know Abi,

as I have stated in the rapibust thread, I do not know my true size. I know that I am smaller than a 32band size. I am wearing korean made 34B's(bands so loose but cup fits) nice and full and more growth, I will need to wear a C cup. But we all know these sizes run small. I have vintage bras that are true 32B's that fit like today's 34B's. So I know 34B is def not my true size.

But all in all, I am a bigger bottom half than my top and I think at a 32D I will barely be even top to butt. So I am still small but I am loving my new cleavage so much as I have never had such before!

I think broad shoulders are a great thing. You will have that upside down pyramid shape now all you need is the hip widening to grow a little more along with the chest and you will be there. Lucky you!

I have a lace up corset I bought from ebay a couple years back, it was over 150 bucks but so worth it as it it is a lace up both hips and the back with front closures and its black satin. Just gorgeous and I haven't been lacing. I think about it though as this was one of the purposes of getting it. I used to have a tiny waist but now, ooh I wish...
Wow! I have no acne this month! I start cycle 20(*2 for BO) in 2 days!

I think I like BO! I can't wait to see what the next five months bring. I am eating so much of whatever I crave right now and even cake and Icecream. No acne. I think this juicing every other day is working for me! I love no food restrictions! No constipation, bloated gut as much or really bad reactions to sweets.

Considering a colon cleanse soon!

Newly revised program:

Parsley 2-3 Gm's
BO Drops 6-10 drops 3x daily
Bio Estriodal Gel every other day topically on breasts days 7-17
Bio Progesterone gel topically and lower back or hips days 14-25


This should be simple and effective
(30-09-2012, 04:06 AM)tibetan113 Wrote: [ -> ]Wow! I have no acne this month! I start cycle 20(*2 for BO) in 2 days!

Sweet! BO is pretty awesome. I'm using it together with PM myself, of course, but I've also got like, absolutely no estrogens to start with. The reason I'm combining the BO and PM is because BO more strongly binds to the alpha receptors while PM more strongly binds to the beta receptors.

More on this in my own thread...
If you have read my thread a lil ways back, Ihave done this combo for one month and no longer only because I am now on HRT, using bioidenticals topically, hehe...

I wish you the best of luck with BO and PM combo. Btw, how do you know this alpha beta thing with BO and PM? Is this really a fact?? I would love to know. I think once I am off bio identicals, I would love to reconsider this combo again.

Well. There is entirely too little research done on BO to conclusively call ANYTHING about it fact. PM and in fact almost ALL phyto's however, is absolute fact that they bind more strongly to beta receptors. There are ample studies to prove it if you just do a simple google search on the topic. That's part of why they have an anti-cancer activity. They're weaker than estradiol, but not too much, but it's just enough to prevent cancerous activity which seems to be more commonly activated by estrogenic activity on the beta's.

BO is more extrapolation on my end since it's animal source and there has been a lot of research on other animal source estrogens that aren't human. They typically bind more strongly to the alpha's, even compared to human estradiol. And practically ignore the beta's. This is based mainly on studies done on premarin. Which are horse estrogens conjugated from their urine.

Likewise, there are supporting studies which indicate that increased binding of alternative estrogens to beta receptors encourages increased binding of natural estradiol to the alpha's. I'd say that in most women, they shouldn't need to combine. It is more expensive.