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I saw my MD this am. He is going to put me on Bio identical progesterone and estrone, DHEA and adrenal supps. He wants to wait to place me on Bio identical estroidal! Can you believe I actually need estradoil?? I should have no problem growing on NBE this time. He said I am lacking in all hormones and he is now giving me T3/T4. This should also help. I am so hypo right now and he also confirmed stage 3 adrenal fatigue.


So I have loads of work to do. I am still doing BO and am happy to know it contains both estrogen and progesterone with some growth factors and trace amounts of testosterone.

I am most likely going to play by ear and use my Bio-identicals only as I need them. I may not need to use the whole dose, so I will see about blood work on BO and start then if I am still lacking in hormones. I have low insulin so I have to fix this.


Also added to the protocol, deer antler velvet prescribed by my MD. He said its close to HGH you can get.

I am a few days before my menses and I am super swollen. I don't even know if this can contribute to actual growth in the future, I just know its a heck of a lot of swelling versus just feeling heavier. They're bloated and they hurt.

Looking for a good protein to add.
Thank You!
Looks yummyBig Grin
oooo yes. Try 1 scoop of chocolate + 1 scoop of vanilla + 8 oz COLD water + 1 teaspoon of Nestle's Quick in a shaker cup. Shake for one minute. Let sit in the refrigerator for 1 minute then (shake a little more & ) bottoms up!
(28-08-2012, 01:34 AM)tibetan113 Wrote: [ -> ]I saw my MD this am. He is going to put me on Bio identical progesterone and estrone, DHEA and adrenal supps. He wants to wait to place me on Bio identical estroidal! Can you believe I actually need estradoil?? I should have no problem growing on NBE this time. He said I am lacking in all hormones and he is now giving me T3/T4. This should also help. I am so hypo right now and he also confirmed stage 3 adrenal fatigue.

Wow, so much! Hopefully you get some great growth with this finally! Fingers crossed that BO can do it for you!

I'd say rather than mixing Nestle's Quick in with the protein, mix it with Breakfast Essentials (their Rich Chocolate flavour tastes so much like Nestle's Quick), and it's got 5g of protein in it. Wahaika, do you mix it with water so it mixes better than milk? Because 8oz of milk has around 8g of protein, I think.
Nothing wrong with milk. I just prefer water. Also, when drinking a lot of protein powder, you will need to supplement with calcium/magnesium (1=1) to offset the nitrates.
Thanks Doll, I am hoping for a C this time around. I think the lack of hormones is what's keeping me from making it over that hill for new growth. I know I am a true B cup from this starting point as for 2 different times I had stopped NBE for 3 months straight and have not lost any of my gains!

Thank you ladies for your suggestions. I can't wait to put on a little muscle. With so many things to add, at least one can't get board. I'll be doing this at least 2x a day as my MD suggested.
I am about a couple of days before my period and they hurt like hell. Besides the usual bloating, I am experiencing a sort of pain ache and especially during massage. On the sides, they hurt so bad when I touch them it sends a burning sensation. Never experienced this before. Not sure what all this means. The other aching is right around the nipples when I press. the underneaths on the inside or the breasts hurt sore. I pumped the other day and for the first time, I have a little greenish bruise and I didn't even pump hard. The tops of my breasts are nice and plump. Even with all of this bloating, I am still a B cup. Not quite a C.

I guess the BO works. I backed down to 2 drops 3x a day since I am trying to produce my own progesterone surge. I am having stabbing achy cramps. I am 95lbs now. I feel like my period should happen with all of these fertile feelings.

I also dropped my dose for alfalfa and parsley to 1-2GMs. I am still worried about lactating a bit but its prob too early.

What I am currently taking:

VIt C 4Gms
MD Prescribed Deer Antler - 12 sprays a day
Vit D 8,000-10,000 IU's
Parsley 1-2Gms
Alfalfa 1-2Gms
Cayenne- 2 caps a day
BO 3drops 3x daily

Occasional pumping and massage with Flax oil only.
Cycle *19 (#2) BO

Wow, I had major cramping and even some back aching and a couple of hours later, I started my menses today! Like clock work compared to last month. I guess my biological clock was off and I am really due a few days earlier. This Parsley is magic and I am assuming the BO is already active even though I've been on it less than a month. I think I found the right dose.


Boobs hurt less today but still sore. I hope to keep some of this as my cleavage is looking more and I am bulging in my small 34B. I guess 5-7 days now.







hi TibetanPrincess Smile

sorry if you have posted before but im just wondering what's the purpose of the parsley and alfalfa you're taking? - does it help with BO? and is the cayenne for your temperature?

also, are you resuming PM for this cycle?

you have amazing progress and def look more like a C to me Wink