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Thank you! Bustbabe,
I have one breast(left) which is just slight tuberose. Its to the point where its marginal I know but its the slowest growing/changing one and its funny because sometimes when I look in the mirror, the headlights are crooked,Lol.
the right breast stands as should while the left one points slightly downward.
Labs came back and I dont have them infront of me but the Dr. noted that my TSH is Higher. I was at 8 about 4-5 years ago and now I my TSH has rose to 13. Sad

I am definitely Hypo here. My Hashis antibodies were 999 around that time and now they are down to 356! This is at least good news! Smile

Others to note: My prolactin and SHBG Are in mid range which is normalBig Grin
My Vit D Levels could be higher. Not as low as last timeRolleyes

My HGH levels are also normal and I am no longer anemic!Big Grin

So all that is left is to get my saliva panel done and I have to wait till luteal phase. POOO!

This hashis/thyroid crap is unbelievably serious. I have to do something about it. My thyroid is just tanking. My hair is less of and my eyebrows tool I am noticing slight bloating. SO I am going to see a specialist. An get on medication.

Other than that, I am just thankful everything else is working. I know I can still grow with my other glands function properly.

Angst to devise a new and gentle program.



Still massaging with blk seed oil/nutmeg combination. I am in luteal phase as I can feel itBig Grin
Used PM topically this cycle till 3 days ago.


3 days till saliva tests get collected. So anxious as to where my hormones lie. Going to give up all grains soon. As of now, my acne has ceased!



So I am doing my saliva samples for my hormone panel today. Never thought collecting saliva in a tube was such challenging task for me.

I also recieved my test results today and looked over them myself.
I realized my hgh level is only a whopping .7! The range is 0-6.
So I def will be supplementing with things to get these levels up.

Other than that, everything else looks good. Breasts are swollen now. Don't know if any of this will stick around or not after the cycle ends but of course, wait and see.

Today,I hope I am not allergic to grass as I started alfalfa tabs internally and I will be adding some parsley for the adrenals as soon as they come.

This is my last week on crappy foods and drink. I am hypo and need to change all the way around.

Love the swelling I have right now.
Okay so this alfalfa thing maybe affecting my luteal phase slightly. I just feel swelling is not as harsh. Did alfalfa decrease my luteal swelling a bit? Or is it something else?

I am currently: pumping almost daily
massaging with a lil dmso/nutmeg/blk seed oil
6Gms of alfalfa
5-10Gms of Aminos

almost done with saliva panel. ship it all out tomm. I cant wait for these results! So tempted to do a run on PC right now but I will wait impatiently.

I think the day I see a widen boob effect, I know I'm in da haus of a C cup.


K, so I shipped out my saliva test panel today and I hope to get my results sometime next week. I am not sure if I should do topical PM/PC combo/pump or if I should just stick with pumping/massage oil.

Also got my supps today! Yay! I am now slowly devising my new health program as follows per my research for Hashi's and hormone balance:

- 3,350Gms Parsley in 3 (450mg) pills/56 drops For Adrenals
- 10Gms Amino Acids 6 (1.6gm) tabs NBE/ Gut repair
- 500mg Super Enzyme 2 (250mg) caps Gut repair/ whole absorption
- 8Gms Alfalfa 6 (1Gm) tabs/56 drops Pituitary/liver function
- 8IU's Vit D 2 (4,000 IU's) gems Immune balance

For now, till I find out my test results. I cheated today by putting dabs of PC cream on breasts(after my saliva was collected) cause I loved the swelling the pump gave me. I feel like I respond better with constant pump and release technique cause right afterward, I was able to fill out a small 32C bra I have been dying to fill out!

So the question is, will I be attempting what has not been done before: The Taboo PM/BO cycling, PM/PC cycling? Not sure as of yet, I may be high in both progesterone/estrogen and not even need these as I may have a bigger problem: Androgens! If I am high androgens and make plenty of hormones, then I know its all about reconverting that back to estrogen. It was my problem before and I have a feeling, its still my issue. we'll see....


on the verge of cycle 14
Do you mean you plan to take cycle PM with BO on some cycles, and cycle PM with PC on the other cycles? What's the reasoning behind this combination? How would you go about it? I'm always interested in hearing more about programs that haven't been attempted before Big Grin
Hey Mochaccino!

As far as PC/PM/BO cycling, I meant either/ or. My reasoning behind this is BO like PC, is believed to be quite the opposite from how PM works. If its true that BO stimulates the pituitary and ovaries, then I could see how this would work in cycling use in luteal phase.

PM is more so estrogenic or a modulator for estrogen levels which is why its perfect for Follicular phase.

Many users have reported a lightening effect of the areolas with PM and a darkening effect with PC (this will be my BO).

Also, If many users have noted a miss in menses with PM and an onset of menses with BO, that would lead me to believe they may coincide for balancing the whole adrenal/pituitary/ovarian/thyroid loop (my goofy theory, I know). In other words, the growth of breasts.

My question is, the UB brand of BO I have, is it an effective batch to cycle with? I am willing to give it a try on the "dip my toes in the water" approach.

These past two days I have added PC topically but with pumping, it seems I may have some new growth. Not sure as it is luteal phase but it seems I am getting good swelling with the pumping method I am using.


I am constantly pumping 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,... Releasing 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,.... and I am actually holding swellingRolleyes I find it less stressful for the breasts but I am wondering if this is going to up my prolactin levels like Cheryl1989 had experienced.


I am only going to do this for 30 minutes a day/ every other from now on and not longer. I hope when I start taking PM internally, I will be able to decrease the prolactin.

I have decided to up my cleansing herbs:

9Gms Alfalfa
5,350mg Parsley

I am experiencing filling in (from the most to least): tops, inner sides, and outer sides. Where is the bottoms?? I am hoping they start to fill in soon as this is looking kind of weird!
This is a picture (not me) that reminds me of how my breasts are growing: small under boob while the tops and sides are filling in. Is this just too early to really tell with how they will completely fill out? Or will the bottoms never really fill out?