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I just wondered if this was something that is still taken for NBE.

Maybe it doesn't matter that much, but I've seen conflicting advice on when is the best time to take herbs, so I wondered when people here take them. I assume most people take them around meal times, but would that mean before, during or after a meal?

Has anyone here had any luck with stuff like red clover, milk thistle and hops? Flax is coming back as well. I haven't had luck with soy isoflavones however it's easy to find in my experience. I'll also use fenugreek and fennel though. 

What are your thoughts about starting with stuff that grows near you? I find that goats rue and pueraria are kind of hard to get since they don't grow in America.

Hi everyone, this is my first post here. I've only read posts before and decided to get on a herbal supplementation program based on what I've read here.

So for the past 6 months I've been taking PM, in a powder form, one pretty full teaspoon (around 3 grams), usually before going to bed.
(On the bag it said to mix 3 grams with a spoon of honey and warm water. But I just did it raw and chased it with some water.)

Besides that I was supplementing Fish Oil basically all the time.

I saw no effects for at least 2 months, so I decided to add some more supplements. Following this pattern I did:
1 estrogenic herb - PM
1 pro-hormone - Fish Oil
1 pro-aromatase - Licorice and Reishi
1 potentiator - PABA


I took this stack for the past 3 months, recommended dosage, usually after dinner, chased with water, then I took PM before bed.

And I still saw no results at all. Maybe my skin is a bit softer, but it can be a placebo at this point.
Please tell me, am I doing anything wrong? I followed the instructions on the packages - took pills with food, and took PM on an empty stomach before bed.
I have also bought Red Clover a few days ago, and added that to the stack. Can't really tell any difference yet.
I've also tried taking double dose of pills and even fuller teaspoons of PM - no difference.

I started doing some reading here on the forum, and found out I should maybe split the dosage into three times per day?
So let's say - three small teaspoons of PM, and take the pills at different times of the day?

Additional context - I'm 26yo, biologically male, skinny.

I will be very grateful for any advice and tips. I'm very uncertain as to whether I should continue this at all...

I'd like to hear from folks who have been in the game for a long time, because I get hot and cold when it comes to NBE and don't have as much patience as I should. 

I've been in the game off and on for many years, but because I always stopped and got distracted, or just gave up, I haven't made as much progress as i should. Most importantly one mistake I made was going off NBE every time I dieted, which was often. My goal has always been to crack the slim and stacked code. 

Has anyone here been in the game for 10-20 years or more, continuously? I'd love to know about the long term effects this has on the body.

The main issue I've had is deflating when I diet which shows me that I need to stay on NBE while dieting and lose weight slowly. I used to take very intense diet pills like ephedrine that flattened me out.

When I was early 20s I would either be a 36C, 160 lbs and a size 12 jeans or a small 34B and a size 4 at 120. I loved the boob part of being overweight, but I didn't like the overweight part.

Another thing that bothered me was that I felt NBE darkened my nipples, but I got more into skincare and found a prescription hydroquinone that made my color really nice.

Today I'm 135 lbs, a size 6/8 and my 36Cs are tight, but I'm just starting again and my weight goal is 120. I'd like to say that's some sort of progress. But if I'd had more discipline I feel like I would've gotten farther. What do you guys think. If I stick it out for 10 years I'd love to be a full DD or F and super slim. Has anyone gotten that far?

Has anyone played around with the idea that you can infuse safflower oil or sunflower oil both of which are high in linoleic acid with herbs to give a direct delivery to the breasts? Linoleic oil is very good for transdermal delivery and I would suspect it would be the best way to deliver any type of herb or compound to the area. 

Please do not hesitate to reply

I've heard a few stories about bee pollen promoting breast growth. Is there any truth to this?

So I have been perusing this website for about a year here and there I've finally decided to start NBE.

I am 27 years old, 5'4, 63kg and am currently 32B and my goal is 30E. I naturally have a pear shaped body with a lot of fat going to my thighs, butt and stomach and my hip bones are naturally wide but my boobs are really small so my body isn't proportionate.

My measurements are:

Across Nipple: 87cm
Underboobs: 86cm
Waist (band size): 83cm
Waist (Narrowest point): 78cm
Hips: 97cm

Hormones tests are really expensive otherwise I would've gotten my hormone levels checked but I hope the plan works out. Also I'm hoping posting on here will help me to be more consistent with the program and maybe get some advice along the way. I am also trying to lose weight at the same time so it will be interesting to see if I manage to grow my boobs while losing weight everywhere else. 


SurferJoe has been really helpful in giving me advice on this too and answering my questions. The following is my plan:

40% Saponin Shatavari Powder - 3g
3000mg MSM
Saw Palmetto 320mg
Pueraria Mirifica 250mg

I am still waiting on some of the things to arrive which should come in the next few weeks. Right now I am just having the Shatavari and MSM which I started 4 days ago. I did also want to start progesterone cream but after reading some posts on here I wasn't sure as I read that PC can have harmful effects if its not needed. But I will see how I get on with what I currently have and I will probably add more things as I go along.

<p><span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 500; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important; float: none;">Hi, everyone!&nbsp;</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 500; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important; float: none;"><br></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 500; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important; float: none;">I'm actually have been on this forum since years ago (I was 15 y.o. I guess) but never really do anything about NBE except for breast massage because I was too afraid I was still in puberty and development. But now I am 25 y.o and still with a 32 small A cup ) N<span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; font-weight: 400; text-align: start; float: none; display: inline !important;">ow,&nbsp;</span><span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 500; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important; float: none;">I really want to try NBE to have that more feminine look</span><span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 500; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important; float: none;">.&nbsp;</span><span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important; float: none;">I've been always impressed by the knowledge I found</span><span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important; float: none;">&nbsp;and supportive members in this forum. I guess I haven't found any website that have this lots of information about NBE but I still need some advice for my NBE program.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 500; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important; float: none;"><br></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 500; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important; float: none;">I am 5,5 ft tall, 132 pounds. I noticed I am easily gain weight if I don't control my food intake and gain fat more on&nbsp;the thighs, arms, and face cheeks. But not on the boobies.&nbsp;I have wide hip bones structure but not that bottom heavy as well. I feel like most of the time, my feet feel cold despite I'm living in Asian&nbsp;tropical country.&nbsp;I've also always have a low blood pressure. I used to have a lot of acne until I was 20 y.o. but thankfully they are gone now.&nbsp;</span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida, sans-serif;">A</span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida, sans-serif;"> little bit from my family background, my mother has A&nbsp;cup size&nbsp;</span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida, sans-serif;">but her sisters and&nbsp;mom all have at least D cup size.&nbsp;</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 500; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important; float: none;"><br></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 500; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important; float: none;">I want to try the herbal NBE since the ingredients are more easier to find in my country than Bovine Ovary.&nbsp;I also came across to a supplement called&nbsp;'Nutrimax Femme' (local product)&nbsp;that contains:</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 500; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important; float: none;"><br></span></p><p>

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Ok, so I typically just pump.  Have been pumping for years and except for a few times where i used too much pressure, I have not had any issues.  Three days ago I added Fenugreek (600mg, 3 times a day) to my routine and yesterday I developed a really bad rash on both breasts.  I had pumped up to 3 days ago and used a different lotion than I typically used AND after pumping I wore one of my tack bras for a few hours (Yeah, a bit kinky but look on BoundAnna if you don't know what that is). 

So, I have not clue what caused this rash.  It is so severely itchy that I have worn only an open cup bra, topless, all day (home alone).  Can not stand to have anything tough my breasts.  It shows no sign of subsiding. 

Has anyone taken Fenugreek and had a similar rash?  I did stop taking Fenugreek this morning so hopefully I will feel better tomorrow, if i can sleep tonight. 

Help!! 

The photo does not show the rash that well.