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Posted by: Niccyy - 28-09-2020, 10:53 PM - Forum: Herbal Breast Enhancement - No Replies

<div><br></div><div>I wondered if anyone here has used Wonderup recently? This is the product I'm talking about:</div><div><br></div><div>https://www.vortexhealth.uk/wonderup.html<br></div><div><br></div><div>Looking through the older pages in the forum I see some good success stories, but they are all some time ago now. <br></div><p><br></p>


Posted by: msla - 23-08-2020, 04:43 AM - Forum: Herbal Breast Enhancement - Replies (1)

Ok. I have joined this forum for 10 years. I used to take a little bit of herbs but my butt grew so i didnt take any herbs anymore, anything that is estrogenic will cause fat go to my butt. I believe pumping will give result because i used noogle berry for a short amount of time and my boobs already get fuller, but i dont want to grow breast now cuz im feel im ok with it. Im currently using an progesterone gel i bought from nearby drugstore. I just saw it in my nearby drugstore and it is not expensive so i buy it because i read sb said here that when she takes progesterone cream, she lost fat in her butt faster. My purpose now is losing fat in my butt. Im taking herbs that boost testerone, and when i take it, after i ate, fat goes to my belly more than my butt. I just wonder thathis progestogel gives me headache even if i apply a dime size, i already feel tense in my head. If i take more than dime size, the headache increased. The dosage it said is 2.5g gel 1-2 times per day . If i take 2.5g, the headache is uncomfortable. I search progesterone cream side effect and it includes headache. Maybe my gel is synthetic progesterone. Because it seems no women here mentioned about headache while using PM ,maybe because their PM is natural progesterone. I dont know if i should use this tube anymore . If i use it, i will just use a dime size because if using the right dosage 2.5g, i cant stand the headache. I dont seem to have hormone imbalance. Sometime i can have breast swelling before period but recently my breasts dont swell much before period. My tube is called progestogel 1%, it contains 1g of progesterone in a 80g tube made in belgium. I attached a pic here but i dont know if it shows. I dont know if it is dangerous if i use this cream.


Posted by: apuro - 14-08-2020, 07:03 PM - Forum: Herbal Breast Enhancement - No Replies

<p>Hi everyone,</p><p><br></p><p>I’m halfway through my first cycle with PM, PC, and MSM, so far so good. I went off of birth control this month so I could see how these herbs would affect me. But honestly, I don’t think I can keep going using condoms during sex, so I’m trying to see what my options are for contraception and pm/herbs/general nbe techniques.</p><p><br></p><p>Would a progestin only pill interact with pm? What about an iud or a nuva ring? Should I cycle my herbs or use them straight through the month if I take a progestin only pill?</p><p><br></p><p>Any advice would be SO appreciated, I’m really struggling not knowing what to do&nbsp;Sad</p>


Posted by: Scarlett Jade - 09-07-2020, 02:47 AM - Forum: Herbal Breast Enhancement - No Replies

<p>I was wondering if Nettle would be helpful for NBE or not. It's supposed to be a dht blocker, but I've also read that it is an aromatase inhibitor? Has anyone used it and experienced any benefits?</p>


Posted by: Danna - 29-06-2020, 11:23 PM - Forum: Herbal Breast Enhancement - Replies (3)

<p>My breasts respond real well to fenugreek. (Unfortunately my ass stomach and hips do also.) they swell up every time I take them (before deflating down a little). I wanted to start a pill with my subliminal regimine to help my body along. Though I know fenugreek works great, would it be more beneficial if I bought a prenatal multi with shake instead since it has a bunch of other thing in it.</p>


Posted by: 1peachy - 05-06-2020, 02:49 AM - Forum: Herbal Breast Enhancement - Replies (1)

Fenugreek and the Thyroid

Hi, this is my first post, I’m Izzy. I’ve been lurking a while and haven’t found a discussion on the thyroid-interfering effects of fenugreek.
I know the lovely TibetanPrincess has Hashimoto’s thyroiditis and had a negative experience with NBE herbs. I also have Hashimoto’s, so the thyroid is of personal interest to me.

However, even if you don’t have thyroid issues, this is relevant. Women are much more prone to thyroid issues than men. The thyroid affects every part of the body and can definitely interfere with one’s NBE journey if levels are amiss. Fenugreek is a commonly used NBE herb.
This post is separated into
-Quick primer on thyroid hormones
-Fenugreek’s effect on thyroid hormones, study
-Conclusion

Quick primer on thyroid hormones for those who need it:

There are two thyroid hormones, thyroxine (T4) and triiodothyronine (T3).

T4 is a pro-hormone, meaning it’s a precursor to another hormone. The body processes T4 into T3.

T4 is a much weaker thyroid hormone than T3.
T4 can be converted to T3 in the thyroid (intrathyroidal conversion) or in other organs such as the liver, kidneys, and muscles (peripheral conversion). 80% of T4 → T3 conversion is peripheral.
Thyroid hormones (TH) can either be bound, by thyroxine-binding proteins, or free in the blood (free TH). Free TH is the active form, it can travel through the blood, around the body, and into cells.
Ordinarily, 99.97 percent of thyroid hormone is bound, whilst 0.03% is free and active.
Certain chemicals can regulate amounts of thyroxine-binding proteins, altering your ratio of bound and free TH.
Estrogen increases thyroxine-binding proteins. Testosterone, on the other hand, decreases thyroxine-binding proteins. Simply put, thyroxine-binding proteins up↑ = free TH down↓. Thyroxine-binding proteins down↓ = free TH up↑.
Your total thyroid hormone still remains the same.
TSH – Thyroid stimulating hormone, TSH, tells your body to produce more thyroid hormones.

If you are hypothyroid, your doctor has most likely put you on a synthetic form of T4, expecting your body to convert enough of it to T3. To be healthy, you need appropriate levels of both T4 and T3.
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Fenugreek
Study:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...1899905108
PANDA, S., TAHILIANI, P. and KAR, A., 1999. INHIBITION OF TRIIODOTHYRONINE PRODUCTION BY FENUGREEK SEED EXTRACT IN MICE AND RATS. Pharmacological Research, 40(5), pp.405-409.
Relevant extracts and graph:
“From the results, it is evident that fenugreek seed extract decreases serum T3 concentration both in mice and rats. The significant decrease in serum T3 concentration following the administration of fenugreek seed extract indicates that T3 synthesis is inhibited by the plant extract.
It therefore appears that, in the present study, decreased serum T3 concentrations following the seed extract administration may be the result of the inhibition in peripheral conversion of T4 to T3 in extrathyroidal tissues. This is further evidenced by a decreased T3:T4 ratio in treated mice and rats. Of course the possibility that fenugreek seed extract also decreases intrathyroidal conversion of T4 to T3 cannot be ruled out. Interestingly T4 concentration was found to be more in treated animals. This is understandable, as it is known that T4 acts as a prohormone or substrate for T3 formation and obviously its availability in circulation is expected to be more when T4to T3 conversion becomes less.
Graph:
https://imgur.com/a/b0kSF5G


Posted by: Liqaprincess - 01-06-2020, 11:25 AM - Forum: Herbal Breast Enhancement - Replies (2)

Hello my dears, 
I have been looking at NBV again lately. And would now have the following idea or questions about it: I would like to take the following: 
Red clover 920 mg + fennel 500 mg 

Here are my questions: Is it really important to adjust the income to the cycle? Because from day 15 I read that one tends to go away from estrogen and go towards progesterone. Do you really have to switch to achieve success? 
This combination would therefore make sense: 

Day 1 - 15 fennel + red clover 
From day 16 yam (or another?)
Do I understand it right? 

Many thanks for your help!!


Posted by: asdfadf - 18-05-2020, 02:39 AM - Forum: Herbal Breast Enhancement - Replies (1)

Hi guys,

About 4 years ago when I first got into NBE, I discovered this website and have mostly been a silent lurker. About 2 years ago, things changed and my NBE game took a back seat. While I was actively into it though, I definitely saw results, albeit not huge, but they were permanent. I started with a 34A, and am now a comfortable 34B.

So now, on to my decade-long struggle with irregular periods. I'm 24, and have always had irregular menstrual cycle. No issues with PCOS, no BC - it was just always out of whack. Tried a lot of things. Vitex seemed to work really well, but once I ran out of one bottle, I didn't really repurchase because once I started PM (just once a day), I noticed I started getting my periods on time, and by time, I mean like clockwork. However, it's come at a steep price of hormonal acne and occasional PMS. I've never had either before. Acne, yes; hormonal acne, no.

So yeah, that's where I am now. Though PM has regulated my cycle, it seems to only sporadically work for my NBE (not sure if that's normal?). Some months, it causes swelling and my boobs seem to go up half a cup, only for them to deflate the following month and go down to what looks like 34A to me right now Sad

Btw, I do cycle PM (stop using it once period starts), and some days I miss it when I feel like it's not doing anything.

I'd really appreciate some insight by my better informed fellow readers into what may be happening, and why I'm not seeing any results with PM for NBE anymore. 

Thanks!


Posted by: bosekk - 11-05-2020, 06:38 PM - Forum: Herbal Breast Enhancement - Replies (1)

<p>I used herbal supplements with minimal dosage and cycling&nbsp;for three or four months. The other day, I noticed several moles on my body had&nbsp;increased in size and became darker significantly. These moles had not grown for years. Now some of them look suspicious because of the size and shape,&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>If you have moles, be very cautious about hormonal&nbsp;herbs. I should have paid attention earlier... Now I quit my supplements&nbsp;&nbsp;and hopefully these moles stop changing.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Please let me know if you have any suggestions for my situation.&nbsp;</p>


Posted by: sarahbearah - 06-05-2020, 12:01 AM - Forum: Herbal Breast Enhancement - Replies (2)

<p>Has anyone had success with herbs and then been able to keep your growth after stopping them?</p><p><br></p><p>A little about me, I am 31yo and have been trying various forms of NBE for a few years now.&nbsp; Most of my attempts have been centered around herbs that are also considered galactogogues.&nbsp; For anyone who is not familiar, galactogogues are supplements that increase breast milk production.&nbsp; I know prolactin is actually bad for NBE but I don't believe any of the galactogogues actually increase prolactin (please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though).&nbsp; I believe there isn't much research in galactogoues so the mechanism by which they actually do increase breast milk is unknown.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Common galactogogues are:&nbsp; Fenugreek, fennel, blessed thistle, nettle, goat's rue, shatavari, moringa, and flaxseed.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>I have tried most of the galactogogues for at least a few months, and I would notice just a little bit of growth (1 cup size at most).&nbsp; But after stopping, the growth would always shrink back down.&nbsp; I used a bunch of the herbs I listed above&nbsp;for almost a full year, then slowly started weaning the dose, but ultimately, once I stopped, my modest growth all went down the drain.&nbsp; Even while I was using the herbs my size would sometimes suddenly go back down out of nowhere.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>My theory based on my personal&nbsp;experience is that maybe these things work as a galactogogue because they pull water into the breasts (which could help increase breast milk content).&nbsp; So maybe they make breasts bigger because they are swollen, but ultimately those kind of effects cannot last permanently.&nbsp; Eventually the swelling goes down.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>What are other people's experiences?&nbsp; How long do you have to use these things to get permanent growth?&nbsp; I would like to avoid BO + PM if possible (I might give in and try them someday though...)&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>I just started re-taking some galactogogues, but this time I am also taking vitamin D &amp;&nbsp;MSM.&nbsp;I'm also&nbsp;planning on using progesterone cream during the luteal phase (cycling PC).&nbsp; I am going to try this for at least 3 months and see where I get.</p>


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