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Hi there I am new to this journey. I’m 38, two kids, used to have supple full breast in 20s and now they’re sad, small and very bottom heavy, deflated on top. I also have had mammogram and ultrasound and my breast are “very dense” which means very little fat tissue, but a lot of connective tissue.

I also have chronically low progesterone, am on bio identical progesterone but not helping too much so far. A little but not much.

Are there recommendations for smaller, droopy very dense breasts? 

I’m 5’1 and 116 lbs so I prefer to not just use weight gain to get the extra fat tissue.

I was hoping maybe increasing my progesterone and luteal phase (cycles are quite short), would also help my breasts. I do still ovulate and get spike in estrogen around Days 10-13.

Thank you for any recommendations you might have. Thank you!

So I thought Id revisit this as it just seems too promising and yet I literally cannot find ANYTHING study related to its hormonal properties yet African women absolutely swear by it claiming it increases curves by increasing estrogen and progesterone in the body, yet there are listings for its oil and in capsule form labelling it a testosterone booster so Im just so damn confused! Lotus? Any ideas about this? Before I buy it I want to make sure it doesnt do anything I dont want it to do even though Im post op and take other herbs which are pro aromatase Id just like to know what Im buying! I keep seeing videos upon videos upon videos on youtube and tiktok boasting about this seeds potential! It does seem to have a very good nutritional profile but thats all I could find 

I'm not sure if this forum is still active or not? I saw surferJoe recommend this site on a reddit sub about nbe. I am just starting my program and wondering about herbal routines with my cycle. I am currently taking twice a day

Fenugreek 2410mg
OptiMSM 1500mg
Mixed maca 1900mg

I also take multi collagen, sea moss combo, a whole food multi, 10,000iu vit D, and Bupropion daily. I massage at least twice daily and rub them with flaxseed oil in the evening. I eat lots of soy like tofu, seitan, edamame, milk, and some faux meats occasionally as I'm mostly vegetarian. I don't use dairy but I've been eating salmon or eggs a few times a week and try to gear my diet twords Mediterranean style so lots of nuts, seeds, avocado, olives and olive oil, etc. I don't eat many carbs like rice, potatoes, breads, pasta, etc but I do eat lots of fruits and veggies. I don't eat specifically low carb, just avoid starchy foods. 

I have just started this week and haven't had a chance to get a tape measure yet. This was all started bc I had dramatic volume loss after extended breastfeeding of 3 plus 60# weight loss and was very insecure of my breasts. I got a fat transfer exactly a month ago and loved the results. I did lots of research and was following best practice recommendations to a T (that is why I've started eating Mediterranean and incorporated fish and eggs, plus I took a bottle of red sage to help with circulation but I've just finished it a few days ago.) Despite this I've still lost so much swelling and initial plumpness. 

I do still have good results but I want to hopefully get back to where I was immediately post op. Before my weight loss I was a 36D, but they deflated so much and I was no longer filling it & clipping the tightest hooks but still having trouble with slipping. I had already lost perkiness but weight loss plus returning to baseline hormones after stopping nursing left them (and me) very sad. I have stopped wearing a bra (part of post op instructions) and don't plan to return to one as they have shown to increase sagging plus it's so comfy and better for outfits lol. I am probably back to a D cup but closer to a 34 if I had to guess but I will measure as soon as I can to track results. I have a non hormonal copper IUD.

Ok after all that back story: I am about to start my period soon and wondering if I should be cycling any of my supps? Or take all 3 throughout my cycle? I will also be adding low dose Minoxidil, dhea & spironolactone next week as I'm trying to get thicker hair (COVID caused thinning). Dhea and spironolactone are anti-androgen and combat body hair caused by the minox treatment. I'm surprised not to see Spiro mentioned here as it's frequently prescribed to decrease testosterone in women. PS for anyone looking to help their hair: topical minox has helped tremendously but low dose oral is supposed to help even more. I'm hoping they will also help my bust as growth is listed as a common side effect of Spiro. Plus it helps with acne & water weight so like, win win win all around bb! Anyways, i think that's all for now. I will get copies of my before pictures from the surgeon and have been documenting my recovery to see my results so I can hopefully post progress pictures as they grow. I'm more interested in fullness and perkiness than cup size growth but I won't mind it of course!

It is not necessary to wear a bra after applying breast enlargement cream at night. However, it is important to follow the instructions provided by the manufacturer of the cream you are using. Some creams may recommend wearing a bra to support breast tissue during the enlargement process, while others may not require it.

It is important to keep in mind that breast enlargement creams are not regulated by the FDA and their effectiveness may vary. Additionally, there is limited scientific evidence to support their claims. If you are considering using a breast enlargement cream, it is important to do your research and consult with a healthcare professional before use.


In general, wearing a properly fitted bra during the day can help to provide support and prevent discomfort or pain, especially for those with larger breasts. However, whether or not to wear a bra while sleeping is a personal preference and may depend on comfort level. It is important to prioritize comfort and avoid wearing a bra that is too tight or constricting, which can cause discomfort or circulation issues.

Breast enlargement creams are products that are marketed to women as a way to increase the size of their breasts without undergoing surgery. These creams contain a variety of ingredients, including herbal extracts, hormones, and chemicals that are said to stimulate breast growth. However, there have been concerns about the safety of these products, including the possibility that they may increase the risk of skin cancer.



There is currently no scientific evidence to suggest that breast enlargement creams cause skin cancer. However, some of the ingredients in these creams may be associated with an increased risk of skin cancer. For example, some of these creams contain hormones such as estrogen and progesterone, which are known to stimulate the growth of breast tissue. These hormones may also increase the risk of developing certain types of cancer, including breast cancer.
Another potential risk associated with breast enlargement creams is the presence of chemicals such as parabens and phthalates. These chemicals are often used as preservatives and stabilizers in cosmetic products, but they have been linked to a variety of health concerns, including cancer. Some studies have suggested that exposure to these chemicals may increase the risk of breast cancer, although more research is needed to confirm this.
Despite these concerns, it is important to note that there is currently no conclusive evidence linking breast enlargement creams to an increased risk of skin cancer. However, it is always a good idea to be cautious when using any cosmetic product, especially those that contain hormones or chemicals that may have potential health risks.
If you are considering using a breast enlargement cream, it is important to do your research and read the ingredients carefully. Look for products that are made with natural ingredients and avoid those that contain chemicals or hormones that may be harmful to your health.
It is also important to be aware of the potential side effects of using these creams. Some women may experience skin irritation or allergic reactions to the ingredients in these products, while others may experience more serious side effects such as hormonal imbalances or changes in menstrual cycles.
In addition to using breast enlargement creams, there are other methods for increasing breast size that may be safer and more effective. For example, some women choose to undergo breast augmentation surgery, which involves the insertion of implants to increase the size and shape of the breasts. While this procedure carries its own risks, it is generally considered to be a safe and effective option for women who are unhappy with the size of their breasts.
There are also non-surgical options for breast enhancement, such as breast enhancement exercises and massage, which may help to stimulate breast growth naturally. These methods may not be as effective as surgery or breast enlargement creams, but they are generally considered to be safer and more affordable.
In conclusion, there is currently no scientific evidence to suggest that breast enlargement creams cause skin cancer. However, some of the ingredients in these creams may be associated with an increased risk of cancer and other health concerns. If you are considering using a breast enlargement cream, it is important to do your research and choose a product that is made with natural ingredients and is free of harmful chemicals or hormones.
Additionally, it is always a good idea to talk to your healthcare provider before starting any new cosmetic or medical treatment.

Hi, i searched the forum but haven't found anything about this oil. The ingredients don't match anything traditionally recommended in NBE programs and on this forum.

https://www.kairaliproducts.in/kairbosso...ngredients

Does it work (if the reviews are true) mainly by increasing bloodflow?

I know that using high doses of phytoestrogens is quite common, such as missmadscientist's soy and flax method, which is quite popular on this forum. However, the more that I look into it, there are a few things that don't make sense to me.

Phytoestrogens mimic real estrogen by binding into the same receptors that estrogen would. This is why it is believed to reduce the risk of breast cancer, by reducing the amount of estrogen that bind to the receptors. By this logic, it should hinder breast growth, not increase it. I'm not sure why breast growth from phytoestrogens would have any less of a cancer risk than using natural estrogenic methods like PM or BO etc. It seems like whatever method you use, breast growth = increased cancer risk. What is the cancer risk of NBE methods, realistically?

On the same topic, why is it that natural breast growth from puberty or pregnancy doesn't have a risk of breast cancer (at least that I know of), but using hormonal methods have the risk? As someone with a family history of cancer, this is a big concern of mine that's looming on me as I go through my NBE journey. I'd love to know what you guys think.

Hey there! Im genderfluid and looking for a natural way to enhance my breasts. I dont want to go through HRT as I mainly just want bigger breasts and maybe a more hourglass shape. 

From doing my research on here iv been thinking of taking fenugreek and reishi to help, as well as massaging every day. Any tips on if this will help, or any additional supplements I may want to look at? Fenugreek and reishi are the two most easily accessible to me (at my local walmart) but would look into other options if need be! Thank you

I'm already struggling with appetite (if anybody has suggestions on increasing this I'd love to hear it) and I read somewhere that goats rue has been used to decrease appetite, even though I read that high levels of prolactin usually increase appetite so that part is pretty confusing.

I recently added goats rue to my program based on BustyP's suggestion and it does seem to be helping a lot but I'm worried if it might actually reduce appetite. Any insight into this would be appreciated.

Hello everyone, I accidentally found this link in one of the topics, but I forgot where. Has anyone tried this method? Is there an effect?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnDLAweszvI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVW6ZdvY2IQ