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Hey there! So my current routine seems to be going pretty well. I've only been at it for a little over 2 months but I was just wondering if I should shoot for a certain amount of time before I take a break? I've heard some stuff about receptor burn out and I'm just curious about it. And if I should take a break, how long should it be before I start up again? And if I start up again after a break, do I need to ease into it again? I'd obviously love to just keep going without breaks if one isn't necessary, but if it'd contribute to better growth overall then I'll definitely take one at some point.

Here's my current program:
- 2,400 fenugreek extract (50% saponins)

- 4,000 mg MSM


I know the PM seems high, but I'm on a full progestin BC and I upped the PM to 1,000 MG 5 weeks ago and have had no issues since and it does seem like I'm still growing (have a lot of days with soreness and swelling, so I think that's a good sign?).

I am a 21 year old cis gendered female. I am 5'3 and 115lbs. I have size 32 A boobs and have a piete body with a big bubble butt. I don't have wide hips. My goal is to get to a C or D cup. I have been attempting NBE for over two years now with the only results being temporary (despite me being very consistent with my program) and never more than 1 more cup size. I am finally determined to figure this out once and for all. I have breast augmentation surgery set up next year, but I much rather do it the natural way. 

In my past I would use maca, fenugreek, massage, birth control and a balanced diet in order to enhance my breast (I never found that maca or my diet had any affect though) 
 
I took a blood test to look at my hormone levels, but I got confused with which day to take the test on and I took it on day 13 of my 26 day cycle (One day after ovulation). All my results came back in the normal. However, my progesterone was high-normal and my estrogen was low-normal. I believe I would have gotten a more accurate result if I took my test a bit later on in my cycle.

However, I do believe I may have a progesterone dominance as I have gotten growth from only drinking red clover (which is a estrogenic herb) alone. However, the growth is never permanent whether I routinely drink it or not.

Currently I eat a whole foods plant based diet. With a ton of nuts, seeds, leafy greens, fruits, whole grains, beans and herbs each day. I also consume a lot of soy milk and flax seeds (although I have not noticed any growth from these foods). I also exercise daily. (None of this seems to add to my breast growth as I was also a A32 when I ate poorly) 

• I take a multi vitamin, omega 3, lions mane and chaga every day. 
  
  
• I take 2000mg of MSM with 3000mg vitamin C every morning. (I may stop MSM as I don't think it is necessary for my situation).
  
  
• I massage my breasts 2x a day for about 10 minutes with olive or coconut oil. This seems to be the most important part of my program, but usually needs to be combined with other things in order to work.
  
• I have been eating 1-4TBS soaked fenugreek seeds every morning on an empty stomach for over two years now. This has always delivered inconsistent results.
  
• I just started taking a 100mg pearfica murifica with 50mg DIM supplement a couple weeks ago and this has been seeming to work pretty well. My breast were very sore and swollen and within 2 weeks I was up half a size. However, I stopped it once my period started because I just read something that I should be cycling estrogenic herbs. However, I may not cycle for my following periods as the dose im taking of PM is considered a small dose. Now I am on day 4 of my period (and 4 days without PM and red clover) and my boobs have shrunk back to normal (maybe a smidge bigger than normal). 
  
• I have been drinking 3 large cups of red clover tea a day. This is inconsistent, but when it does work, it works well.
  
• I was taking saw pawmetto 2250mg (non extract) for a little while, but I ran out so plan to buy more. This time I will try an extract. I didn't notice anything, but I want to try again to be sure. 
  

PM may be the thing I am missing. I hope it is, but I am trying not to get my hopes up as nothing has been consistent for me in the past.

Is there anything I am missing or should adjust? Is PM and red clover too much? I was also thinking of adding 1 tsp of fennel seeds each morning and seeing how that goes. How long should I wait until upping my dose of PM or adding progesterone cream into the mix?

Also, if anyone could touch more on cycling with estrogenic herbs that would be great.

Hi there! I'm a newcomer to NBE and looking for a herb that can boost my energy levels while also providing NBE. I'm constantly fatigued throughout the day and have very little energy, so anything helps!

Hi! 

I'm a 27f, 5'7", 158 lbs that use to have 38 dd at 197 lbs but I was taking birth control and a diet pill at the time. Now, I'm off BC and the diet pill, so the girls (36B/34C roughly) shrank along with the weight loss. I'm hoping to increase to 36-38 D/DD/DDD and produce lactation??


Daily (Whole cycle?)
Msm + Vitamin C in morning and Msm +  Vitamin C + Hops in evening (I'm currently taking a HerOwn Desire mix vitamin with  Hops 10:1 extract 200mg, nettle root extract, and oat straw 10:1 extract, maca root powder 150 mg, fenugreek leaf 16:1 extract (50% saponins)150 mg, epimedium (10% icarrins);  and was going to take Nature's way Hops (Flower) 620 mg once the multivitamin is gone.

Daily women's multivitamin

Daily massage with flax oil

Fenugreek seed powder 610mg, eventually to be replace with Fenugreek seed 1500mg

Daily Whole cows milk with flax/chia/hemp seed mixture for lunch?

Menses phase
Milk thistle, includes seed 1260mg  and seed powder extract 240mg

Proliferative phase
Pueraria Mirifica (Have it ordered, will update mg when it comes in)
Daily supplements in this phase

Luteal Phase
Saw palmetto 450mg per capsule


I'm not to sure on when to and how much often to take Saw Palmetto and Horny goat weed 1000mg and any thoughts on Traditional Medicinals Mother's Milk tea for lactation?

Thank you ?

I really stepped up my game by adding Reishi to what I am already taking

My breasts have felt achey and are very sensitive, I have two small mounds developing, my nipples tend to stay hard and tingle, when i rub them i tingle all over... *blushes*

The feeling i get is very feminizing and I am more conscious of my body, appetite is less and i seem to be losing weight

I gently massage my new breasts several times a day with a PM serum i made and at least once a day with tea tree oil and lavendar (this feels really good). I've never felt such bliss as I am esperiancing when I massage them, using a vibrator too sometimes, i have never got off with a vibrator externally before now but it seems to be real easy to do. Like i unlocked some secret code...

My moods are very mellow and i don't feel any aggresion, i wonder if this will pass, i know my t level must be so low, the PM works too i can feel it and before, the last time I tried, i never got this far

Please share youe experiance with me I want to make friends with girls like me <3

PMs are welcome!

Hello

I originally ordered a few supplements such as Maca, vitex, saw palmetto and PM cream as I was looking for ways to balance hormones/reduce hirsutism, however as I was a member here a while ago I thought I'd restart my breast journey! 

The PM is a cream, the rest are oral. Can I take all of these together? How to I cycle them? Are there any I shouldn't take together? 

Thanks

Hi,

So I'm dabbling in NBE after several years away.  I'm just starting out with Shatavari by it's self because it's suppose to be an adaptogen and I read it can possible make your hormone receptors more sensitive (?? I might be wording that wrong).

Now, I have not broken out in a few years, I use to have some mild trouble with it (I'd always notice if I ate junk food, my skin would later have more break outs.  But for the past few years diet hasn't mattered in terms of pimples.)

Right now, while on Shatavari (it's only been maybe 2 weeks) I noticed sometime last week or so breaking out and thought it was so odd and out of nowhere because I wasn't doing anything different.

My question is: is that common with Shatavari?  Also if it is the Shatavari, what could that be a sign of (what might the shatavari be doing to cause that)?

*I did have an experience of breaking out doing NBE before (years ago), I attributed it to Saw Palmetto (I posted about it here).

<p>Hello, (I hope i'm posting this in the right place)</p><p><br></p><p>Recently i've lost&nbsp;weight due to an ED, but i've firmly decided to stop losing weight because&nbsp;i'm finally satisfied with my body.. except for my breasts. (Since then i've&nbsp;gained 8 lbs.)&nbsp;</p><p>I went from&nbsp;nice looking 34DDs at my highest weight (145 lbs), to a really sad looking, kinda saggy&nbsp;C cup at my cw (120 lbs). Regrettably, throughout my weight loss i was never really focused&nbsp;on taking care of my breasts or attempting to preserve their fullness, and I only recently learned what coopers ligaments are <img src="https://www.breastnexus.com/images/smilies/blush.gif" data-sceditor-emoticon="" alt="" title="">&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>At first I focused on lifting the sagginess with creams, but when that didn't work&nbsp;I decided I&nbsp;just want them big again. I think it'll fill out the loose skin and perk them up.</p><p><br></p><p>After researching about NBE I found out about the legendary <b>Chiyomilk</b>, and looking at her before and after pictures really gives me hope. I've been researching her program and I think I understand, I&nbsp;just have some questions:</p><p><br></p><p>1) What is a high quality brand of&nbsp;<span style="" id="docs-internal-guid-f4bd47b8-7fff-52a6-37c5-cfb31a642549"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><b style="">Pueraria Mirifica</b>? I don't want to risk ingesting anything dangerous.</span></span><!--EndFragment--></p><p><span style=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></span></span></p><p><span style=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">2) What is a good replacement for the <b>B-Up miracle pills</b>? The main ingredients being Wild Yam, Black Cohosh, Fenugreek, Saw Palmetto, Vitex, Dandelion, Cumin and Red Clover, is only one of these good enough to take during the <b>luteal phase</b>?</span></span></p><p><span style=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></span></span></p><p><span style=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">3) Is there a cheap <b>pig placenta</b> out there? Everything I find is quite expensive. (Will sheep placenta do the same job?)</span></span></p><p><span style=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></span></span></p><p><span style=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">4) Does herbal NBE have the risk of making me infertile? I'm worried since i'm quite young.</span></span></p><p><span style=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></span></span></p><p><span style=""><span style="background-color: transparent; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline;"><font color="#000000" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt; white-space: pre-wrap;">Even though not very realistic, I really hope to get growth as fast as hers. Please tell me any other suggestions you have. <img src="https://www.breastnexus.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" data-sceditor-emoticon="" alt="" title=""> </span></font></span></span></p><p><span style=""><span style="background-color: transparent; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline;"><font color="#000000" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></span></font></span></span></p><p>~My stats if needed:</p><p>Underbust - 29.5 in</p><p>Fullest part of bust (without bra) - 36 in</p><p><span style=""><span style="background-color: transparent; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline;"><font color="#000000" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></span></font></span></span></p><p><span style=""><span style="background-color: transparent; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline;"><font color="#000000" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></span></font></span></span></p>

<p>Hi everyone,</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>I just wanted to share my first NBE program with you and maybe get some advice from some of you more experienced</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>My profile:</p><p><br></p><p>Age: 26 y.o</p><p><br></p><p>Height: 1,58 cm</p><p><br></p><p>Weight: normally 48-49kg but I gained some kilos (I think it's maca)&nbsp;and currently I am&nbsp;52kg.</p><p><br></p><p>Bust: started 83cm NOW I am 85,5cm</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>What I take:</p><p><br></p><p>Maca Root with vitamin C bio acerola: 4 pills a day 2morning/2evening 3000mg empty stomach.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Fenugreek: 4 pills a day 2morning/2evening 2600mg empty stomach</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Fish oil Omega 3 + vitaminC&nbsp;: 1 pill a day 214mg</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Collagen + hyaluronic + Q10: 1 pill a day 900mg</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Cupping vacuum&nbsp;machine breast enhancer: 1h a day evening (not on period).</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>So, I started using the vaccum&nbsp;machine weeks ago but not constantly, but now I do it regularly 1h a day.</p><p><br></p><p>I take maca,&nbsp;fenugreek, collagen and omega3&nbsp;since 18 days.</p><p><br></p><p>At the beginning my breasts were very full and slightly painful to the touch and my nipples very sensitive, I had reached 86cm but I was in luteal phase and unfortunately the size decreased after my menstruation, but they are still 2,5cm fuller than before.&nbsp;Remember that I started with 83cm and now I'm 85.5cm. They are definitely slightly fuller.</p><p><br></p><p>One thing I noticed is that I have some headaches during the day, I must say that I am in a period of a lot of stress and I don't understand if it depends on this or maybe the doses are too high?</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>I ordered Pueraria Mirifica 500mg and it should arrive next week. I am planning to take it only in the follicular phase and lower the doses of the other herbs, maybe I'll take just 1 or 2 pills a day or MAYBE only in luteal. Do you have some advices on this ???</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>What I eat:</p><p><br></p><p>Lots of avocados, potatoes, rice, chicken,&nbsp;legumes, LOT OF WATER and a small glass of soya milk in the morning.</p><p><br></p><p>Actually I have always eaten very healthy, no fried foods, not too many sweets, no coffee and I also like to do some&nbsp;homemade stuff like bread (everything gluten free).&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>That's all for now, I'd like to have some advice from you, if you have already had a program like this and if my headache is due to too high doses.</p><p><br></p><p>One last thing, i noticed that when i had my period there were some blood clots that worried me, is this normal? I also suffer from excruciating pain during my period (unfortunately for years).</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Waiting for your Tipps ❤</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Have a greats day girls !</p><p><br></p><p><br></p>

<p>Hello Girls,</p><p><br></p><p>I'm new to the group, I only registered&nbsp;yesterday, but I've been reading your posts continuously from morning to night for a week now, trying to gather as much informations and help as possible.</p><p><br></p><p>I would like to start my program right NOW, but I have read some side effects that terrify me.</p><p>At&nbsp;the beginning of my research I was enthusiastic and sure I wanted to start, then I thought better about&nbsp;my lifestyle that perhaps could compromise the function of these herbs, I am too AFRAID, I need you, your Tipps&nbsp;and experiences. I am also open to give&nbsp;you my instagram contact privately so that we can talk to each other more easily.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>I'm not very used to forums, almost not at all.</p><p><br></p><p>AGE: 26 (in Sept. 27)</p><p>HEIGHT: 1,58cm</p><p>WEIGHT: 50-51kg</p><p>Circumference of my bust plus breast is 83cm&nbsp;</p><p>I SMOKE 1 CIGARETTE PER DAY IN THE MORNING WHILE DRINKING MY TEA (NO COFFE) and I DRINK some ALCOHOL in the weekend.&nbsp;</p><p>These&nbsp;things has given me so many doubts and fears, almost as if I wanted to give up everything. Could the consumption of alcohol increase the chance of cancer? What about cigarettes? (Really just smoke one cigarette a day, helps me to go .... in the toilet&nbsp. But I eat very healthy!!!! I also do fresh bread by my self every week.</p><p>Time ago I took&nbsp;fenugreek pills&nbsp;for 1 month with no results, just so bad smell of curry. I've been using VACUUM BREAST ENHANCEMENT for about a week, but obviously it's still early to see results.</p><p><br></p><p>I ordered pueraria mirifica pills on ebay and they will arrive on June 9th approximately. I was already ready to order FENUGREEK pills again and MACAROOT on amazon, but I'm too unsure ... for my fears.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>WHAT SHOULD I DO?????? HELP ?</p><p><br></p><p>PS. I suffer&nbsp;a bit of acne on the face and back, dandruff and my period are&nbsp;MORE OR LESS regular, but the last month&nbsp;I had 6 days delay ... but a few nights before I drunk too much alcohol and I thought maybe that it could be the cause.</p><p><br></p><p>PLEASE REPLY AND THANKS IN ADVANCE&nbsp;</p>