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I know that using high doses of phytoestrogens is quite common, such as missmadscientist's soy and flax method, which is quite popular on this forum. However, the more that I look into it, there are a few things that don't make sense to me.

Phytoestrogens mimic real estrogen by binding into the same receptors that estrogen would. This is why it is believed to reduce the risk of breast cancer, by reducing the amount of estrogen that bind to the receptors. By this logic, it should hinder breast growth, not increase it. I'm not sure why breast growth from phytoestrogens would have any less of a cancer risk than using natural estrogenic methods like PM or BO etc. It seems like whatever method you use, breast growth = increased cancer risk. What is the cancer risk of NBE methods, realistically?

On the same topic, why is it that natural breast growth from puberty or pregnancy doesn't have a risk of breast cancer (at least that I know of), but using hormonal methods have the risk? As someone with a family history of cancer, this is a big concern of mine that's looming on me as I go through my NBE journey. I'd love to know what you guys think.

Hey there! Im genderfluid and looking for a natural way to enhance my breasts. I dont want to go through HRT as I mainly just want bigger breasts and maybe a more hourglass shape. 

From doing my research on here iv been thinking of taking fenugreek and reishi to help, as well as massaging every day. Any tips on if this will help, or any additional supplements I may want to look at? Fenugreek and reishi are the two most easily accessible to me (at my local walmart) but would look into other options if need be! Thank you

I'm already struggling with appetite (if anybody has suggestions on increasing this I'd love to hear it) and I read somewhere that goats rue has been used to decrease appetite, even though I read that high levels of prolactin usually increase appetite so that part is pretty confusing.

I recently added goats rue to my program based on BustyP's suggestion and it does seem to be helping a lot but I'm worried if it might actually reduce appetite. Any insight into this would be appreciated.

Hello everyone, I accidentally found this link in one of the topics, but I forgot where. Has anyone tried this method? Is there an effect?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnDLAweszvI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVW6ZdvY2IQ

Split morning ish and before bed 
1800  fenugreek 
2400  shavarti
4000  msm
500mg  x vit c
1x Dr derg Vit d +k
1200  aloe vera
1000 colostrum 
1000 saw palmetto extract 
1200 Berberine 
1gx Ovastistol 
2gx pumpkin seed oil
1000mg Flaxseed
400mg chasteberry fruit at night
Sprintec birth control 
1 x Vit b complex
2.5 pumps progesterone cream with few drops volufiline  massage at night
1 scoop vital proteins collagen
1 packet placenta c jelly 
1000mg beet root lunch/morning

(Goats rue tincture and capsules on the way)

Is ancestral supplements placenta a good thing to add. Has 1500mg bovine placenta and 1500 beef liver. Done side is it's 6 pills a serving 

So this is my current routine. I'm currently 34d and looking to increase to whatever I can get without increasing midsection fat too much. Is there anything I should change, add, or delete from the program? Tried the flaxseed massage. Didn't like the oil on my sheets tho

I've had success with my regiment (2 cup sizes) over the past 6 months, but progress really slowed so I took a two week break in January and got back to my regiment about 3 weeks ago. I think there might be some steady growth, but it is super hard to tell and I haven't had the telltale signs of growth that I've had in the past since coming back. Should I just be patient? Is 3 weeks since my break just too soon to think about changing the regiment in any way?

Should I try out different herbs? Heard good things about goats rue, but I know that it is similar to fenugreek so if I tried that should I cut out the fenugreek or do both?

Here's my current program, spread over the day:
- 2,400 fenugreek extract (50% saponins)

Hello, so a little about me

I'm 20 years old, 5'4 tall, female

haven't had hormones tested, just tested out for having vitamin D deficiency, but I suspect I have PCO'S: black body hair EVERYWHERE even though my hair is light brown, slightly tuberous breasts, irregular menstruation, moody, always bloated no matter how little I eat, back, chest acne and very slight acne on the face, oily hair, you name it.

Been a 38B cup since I was 12, my breasts are slightly asymmetrical, the left one is a full B, right is a C cup, hence so far I'm just massaging the little one.

measurements:
Band: 35 inches
Cup: 39 inches

So I started only with fenugreek supplement and oil 3 months ago for 2 weeks, had to quit it cause it made me gain incredible amounts of weight, constipation, worsened acne, and gave me a rash on my left breast... Scariest part, my skin around my left breast was starting to feel extremely rough to the point it was hard to move them during massage, so I had to quit cold turkey, since I read those are symptoms of fibrocystic breasts, geez.

I went a little crazy and bought all the supplements needed for breast growth I believed could be best for my body. So I have bought:

PM from Ainterol 500 mg
Goat's Rue from Vegavero 5.500 mg
BO from Swansons
White Peony from Life Extension 600 mg
WY from vit4ever 880 mg
MSM from Solgar 1000 mg

Oils for massage daytime:

Licorice, Goat's Rue, Fennel

Cream for nighttime:

Progesterone from Wild yam 

Teas during the day:

Spearmint, Turmeric, Fennel, Licorice, Maca with green tea.

Diet:

Coffee with almond milk and fruits in the morning, protein lunch usually rice and chicken, and salad for dinner, always with nuts and raisins. I cut dairy products since I've noticed they worsened my acne. 


Like I said I went a bit crazy, but so far I'm slowly incorporating each one, what I don't know it's:
what dosage should I take of each or if this combination is too much, should I take something out?

What my program has been 2 months ago, noticed some tenderness and more roundness throughout the end of the month:

2x PM 500 mg everyday. 
Only had Fennel oil at that time so massaged just with that.

My program this month (plus teas and massage with oils):

2x PM 500 mg every day
4x Goat's Rue 5.500 mg 

Massage with Fennel, goat's rue, and licorice oils
(Still waiting for the PC cream to arrive on the mail)

I've noticed some slight growth, gained maybe half an inch on both breasts and they seem more symmetrical, have noticed some weight loss, skin looks better, bras are uncomfortable too, and almost all the time feel tenderness.

Just a few days I discovered about cycling and correct PM dosages, it seems I should only be taking 1x 500 mg if it's from Ainterol during all phases and zero intake during menstruation? I still don't have this very clear, I would really appreciate if anyone could explain it or send a thread where it has been explained   my period is coming very late this month and I'm afraid I won't have it. 

I'll be incorporating Wild Yam next, but like I said I have no idea what dosages I should be taking considering this combination, I would sooo much appreciate any help or info!! 

Dream size is 38DD  :')

So Im mainly using my herbal oil for massage but also use a Japanese bust up cream which Im having to discard after finding out it has pueraria in it which does not react well with me, so Ive been researching popular/famous Japanese bust up creams and one I saw a big youtuber use and she gained alot of size! The cream is called "La Chou Chou bust cream" and Im confused by some of the ingredients if anyone knows if it sounds good let me know! The ingredients are as follows:
[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.65)] Water, BG, glycerin, ethanol, Panax root extract, human oligopeptide-1, acetyl, decapeptide-3 (VP/polycarbamic acid polyglycol) copolymer, alkyl acrylate copolymer, hydrolyzed sesame protein PG propylmethylsilanediol, Silk extract, cypress root extract, hop extract, hydrolyzed yeast extract, soybean oil, almond extract, platinum, silver, oat grain extract, ascorbyl glucoside, hematococcus pluvialis oil, rice germ oil, tocophenol, hydroxide K , Xanthan gum, cellulose gum, PEG-8, carbomer, lecithin, sodium hydrogen carbonate, (hydroxyethyl acrylate/acryloyl dimethyl taurine Na) copolymer, ethylhexyl glycerin, hydrogenated polyisobutene, PG, mandarin orange peel oil, fragrance, phenoxyethanol, methyl parapen , Propyl parapen[/color]

So I know its definitely none of the other herbs Im taking as Ive taken all these for many years (besides sheep sorrel though Im only taking a low dose) but since adding wild yam I have been having the most intense nightmares like seriously scary bad ones waking up in a sweat and anxiety from how frightening they are, is this just a coincidence or anyone else had this from wild yam? Lotus any ideas? If so I will switch it out with hops which I have on the way!

Rather than merely ingest breast enlargement supplements and pray for miracles to occur, it is far better for you to know the facts about Fenugreek breast supplementation. Particularly, in the current worldwide marketplace for natural breast enlargement without surgery, one of the most common ingredients you will find included in top-notch breast augmentation supplements is Fenugreek.

• Fenugreek contains "saponins" that also tend to inhibit the absorption of bad cholesterol.
  
  
• Within the body, absorbed Fenugreek molecules create a fiber very similar to mucilage, providing a helpful "stickiness."
  
  
• The Fenugreek herb can offer possible benefits in blood sugar and body weight lowering.