Many studies claim that spearmint can lower/block androgens (some sites say you'd need to drink at 2-4 cups a day) so a couple of weeks ago I started drinking spearmint tea (only 1 cup a day) as I've suffered from PCOS and testosterone's always been on the high side. I think lowering testosterone would help breast growth but spearmint tea is making me nauseous and really upsetting my stomach so I need to stop.
I don't like herbs, we don't get along and do not want to take herbal pills. I thought some herbal tea would be "lighter" but looks like I can't even tolerate spearmint tea! I tried eating flaxseeds but they break me out.....strong stuff! I'm going to drink fennel tea maybe every other day. I'm not sure about drinking it every single day. Could it be harmful to drink herbal tea every day?
Can anyone think of anything else that one could eat/drink to lower testosterone, that isn't a herb or that doesn't have any unpleasant side effects? I think somebody on the forum mentioned vitamin B? Any suggestions?
I tried posting this in the "NBE general discussion" section by the way but for some reason it keeps blocking me.
What type for fenugreek do you guys use? fresh sprouts/boiled seed tea/powdered seed/powdered seed extract/seed infused oil...
Would you dose them differently and do they have different strengths?
I bought 1kg seeds which I ate as sprouts daily throughout the month along with a few drops of infused olive oil at night, then make a tea with fennel (1 tsp of each daily) during luteal phase. I have grown a little, definitely better shape and more fullness on top but this took over 6 months and I had some problems with horrible vomiting and gastric pain on ov day three times so I no longer take herbs around that week as I don't really know what caused it and it seemed suspicious only on that one day a month
Might sound like a dumb question so forgive my ignorance! I think I know the answer but I'm not 100% sure.
If I start massaging with flaxseed oil for example, will it be like I'm eating flaxseeds? Does the oil penentrate in your body and have the same effect? I guess anything you rub on your skin would eventually enter your pores and your body, right?
I wanted to start massaging with flaxseed oil but I'm worried because a few months ago, I started eating flaxseeds and they made my skin terrible (acne flare outs). Do you think applying the oil on my breasts, would have the same effect or to a lesser degree?
What do y'all think of this study? I have started to eat a lot more berries & cherries since reading about this study because anthocyanins have many health benefits & if they are also estrogenic, well that just adds to the awesomeness of them.
Im getting desperate started growing properly this month but it was sudden fast growth sprut of 4cm within days and now im left with red stretch marks leading from centre of chest to left breast I don't noogle only massages and BO used search option but found nothing except butt topic.
How can I prevent more from coming? Can I fade red one away? Under fingers it feels like hole and in strong light i can clearly see long hole.
Hi. So i always said if i was going to take PM it would be the way the native thais consumed it! As in Tea.. So i brought the tea and it arrived.
Then i see this on the package and i dont understand what it means? It says 50-150mcg per day but doesnt say what the total amount in the package is.. Its a bag of PM slices (actual root) so how many slices equate to 50-150mg? Ive asked Siam naturals so waiting a reply.
The scary bit is the warning re "DO NOT TAKE IF YOU ARE PREGNANT, A MALE OR IF TUMOURS ARE PRESENT".... Which would indicate theres a high estrogen risk there... And here i was thinking pure authentic PM root would balance our estrogens to good not add to it...
Hello, I'm Bri. I've been on and off this site for a year or two now, but this is my first time posting. I'm 18, I wear a 30-32d bra and my measurement are;
I always wear a push up bra and it makes my chest 34-34.5" I would like to get my breast to be 34.5-35" without a bra. When I first started my NBE journey I was around 30-31"(I think, it was a long time ago) and in 2013 or 2014. I haven't really been consistent with anything but I have noticed some great fullness and growth with certain things. I took Pm a year ago and all it did was make me gain 5lbs in less than a month so I stopped that, but then I added it to a cream and noticed fullness right away and grew .5-1 inch from that. Also 2 or 3 years ago I ordered nature day and noticed fullness right away and gain .5 of an inch in a month (I think it was the Dong Quai or saw palmetto). And for the past month I have been massaging with flaxseed oil, though I haven't had any growth in measurements, my breast are very full and look how they look right before my period all the time.
I own many supplements already; flaxseed oil 1000mg, fenugreek 610mg, panax ginseng 480mg, ginko biloba 120mg, EPO 1000mg, vitamin D3 1000iu, and one called femal hormone blend with (black cososh, dong quai, passion flower, red respberry, fenugreek, licorice, cramp bark, chamomile, saw palmetto, wild yam, butternut, and kelp) 920mg.
And two herbal extracts (liquid) the nature day one with ( saw palmetto fennel seed, fenugreek, dong quai, and blessed thistle), and one called happy menopause with (wild yam, dong quai, chaste tree berries, black cohosh, milk thistle, motherwort, and Lobelia herb)
I would love to use up all these herbs, but if not that's fine too. I was thinking I'm estrogen dominant or have excessive estrogen but I'm really not sure anymore.
*****I was thinking Bovine ovary, has anyone had results with that? I was thinking of taking L-tyrosine, MSM, kelp, and sawpalmetto with it, anything else or should I not take anything with it?
Red clover (really want to try this, anyone had good results?), EPO, Licorice (iffy about this, opinions?), wild yam, kelp, fenugreek, MSM, and Maca (what kind?) or panax ginseng. Would this be too many herbs to take at one time? Should I take any of these out and/or add something else?
I understand the basic of NBE but would just like some other opinions. Also do any of the herbs need to be taken at certain time according to my period?
As for something topical I use booby stacked in the morning, and been using flaxseed oil at night. I was thinking of adding PM and maybe Hyalronic acid or a couple other things to the flaxseed oil. I've been contemplating getting a noogleberry system, is it worth it, will it help?
Sorry about it being so long, but I been all over this site and I can't seem to find the answers I'm looking for or even know if this program will work. Thank you!
I've been drinking lots of fennel tea and hope to soon start adding spearmint too. Might even try the capsules one day. I'm confused though; reading some of the posts on here, some members say that you should take spearmint (anti-androgen) for 14 days, starting from the first day of your cycle (period). Others say that you should take it when your period ends, luteal phase etc. Which is correct?
By the way, I didn't know that you had to take herbs/teas during a specific phase of your cycle. I've been drinking fennel (phytoestrogen) nearly every day. Could this be counterproductive?? What are your thoughts?
I'm reading this book about genetic mutations, and this came up. It's nothing new, but it prompted me to want to discover how destructive herbs could be for reproductive ability. It didn't seem like it was difficult for the sheep to hit the disruptive limit.
Survival of the Sickest: The Surprising Connections Between Disease and Longevity:
Quote:Clover, sweet potato, and soy all belong to a group of plants that contain a class of chemicals called phytoestrogens. Sounds familiar, right? It should. Phytoestrogens mimic the effect of animal sex hormones such as estrogen. When animals eat too much of a plant that contains phytoestrogens, the overload of estrogenlike compounds wreaks havoc on their reproductive capability.
There was a sheep-breeding crisis in Western Australia during the 1940s. Otherwise healthy sheep weren’t getting pregnant or were losing their young before giving birth. Everyone was stumped until some bright agricultural specialists discovered the little culprit— European clover. This type of clover produces a potent phytoestrogen called formononetin as a natural defense against grazing predators. And, yes, if you’re a plant, a sheep is a predator! Accustomed to the humidity of Europe, the imported clover plants were struggling to cope with the drier Australian climate. When clover has a bad year— not enough rain or sunshine, or too much rain or sunshine— it protects itself by limiting the size of the next generation of predators. It increases production of formononetin and prevents the birth of baby grazers by sterilizing their would-be parents.
The next time you’re looking for some convenient birth control, you don’t have to snack on a field of clover, of course. But if you take many forms of the famous “Pill,” you’re not doing something all that different. The gifted chemist Carl Djerassi based his development of the Pill on just this kind of botanical birth control. He wasn’t using clover, though; he was using sweet potatoes— the Mexican yam to be exact. He started with disogenin, a phytoestrogen produced by the yam, and from that base, he synthesized the first marketable contraceptive pill in 1951.
Yams aren’t the only source of phytoestrogens in the human diet. Soy is rich in a phytoestrogen called genistein. It’s worth noting that today many processed foods, including commercial baby formulas, use soy because it’s an inexpensive source of nutrition. There’s a growing concern among a small number of scientists that we don’t have a handle on the potential long-term effects of what seems to be an ever-greater level of phytoestrogens and soy in our diet.
It freaked me out a tiny (huge) bit. It makes me wonder if progesterone has a similar effect in large doses as well.