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I'm so super confused! I thought I had the signs of being E dominant because of my acne but actually now I'm thinking its because I have too much testosterone ??

I read an article that specifically says: "While we find little written material on androgen induced acne, practical experience has taught us it is [undefined=undefined]more common on the chin and along the jaw-line[/undefined]. Bacterial control and keeping the follicles open are important aspects of treatment, but two products become important in correcting zinc deficiency combined with controlling the over abundance of androgens."

Thats totally me! I really only get acne on my chin, and jawline area, and on my back (ew!) and for whatever reason, taking Birth Control pills does help things , but doesn't completely get rid of it.

What are the best ways to block androgens? And can someone enlighten me on what having excess androgens would do to my NBE ?

Is what I'm taking right now ok?

fenugreek
red clover
flaxseed oil
wild yam
MSM

and soon PM

Are all of these things ok to be taking if I have too much androgens? And is it sperment tea I need to take to block androgens?

I have seen a lot of skeptics launch out at Natureday being ineffective due to their herbs and such saying they are too weak, but I was absolutely flat when I began taking their product. Mainly because I wasn't too sure on PM because of the overall strength in the chemistry of it all to the body and its effects. But I decided to try their soap product...just due to being economically better for me. I had used a bar and saw some growth starting, and felt a lot of what i assume is tissue from the underpit toward the nipple develop and start to push out. When I sit and lay on my side of bend over its noticeable otherwise looks like a developed chest for a man. So I tried another bar and at the end of this one I defintely saw results. I know people are very PM bias here and by all means thats not a judgment just I know PM is the overall factor for most here, but if you are just seeking something that isn't going to go so hard on your body overall and are primarily just seeking breast growth, I absolutely recommend natureday. I have only used their soap but I hear the liquid and cream together work ridiculously well. I am not here to spam or promote just know a lot of people are looking for regimens and products that work and thought I'd throw in my two cents and excitement i had with natureday.

Hi
Have you tried these creams for enlarging breast ?


http://www.drfujita.com/global/products.php?id=1
http://www.amazon.com/Natureday-C-85-Bre...east+cream

what other breast creams that works well with you ?

Thanks in advance ,
Norah

I hope you ladies have been staying on top of events and have read the news that most herbal supplements are not what they are labeled to be.

www.biomedcentral.com/1741-7015/11/222/abstract

According to this study:


‣ 59% of products contained plants not listed on the label
‣ Although 48% did contain what was on the label, 1/3 of these had fillers.
‣ Product substitution occurred on 30 out of 44 products
‣ Only 2 out of 12 companies had pure products(no substitutions, contamination or fillers)

Unfortunately, company names were not published to avoid lawsuits and angry CEOs. Now, maybe one day the company names will be leaked on wikileaks, but that's mostly for political stuff

I just want us all to be aware that not all supplements are created the same and someone could just put dirt in some capsules and label it as something else because no one would be none the wiser. We have no way to verify our herbs and I think the best way to ensure we are getting what we need, we should be sharing supplement brands because if you got some result and then someone else got some result from the same brand, then maybe it's real.

If someone finds some brands that adhere to Good Manufacturing Practices(GMP) and is verified, please share! I don't want to be taking pulverized weeds under the belief that it's Pueraria

I am taking Ainterol PM (2x/day) for the Proliferative phase (first 14 days) then Fenugreek+Saw Palmetto+Wild yam for the luteal phase (for 14 days) ... but its always my problem because my menstrual cycle lengthens from 28 days to 42 days. How do you manage this?

Hello ladies.

I have a question for you wonderful girls, hopefully you can help me.

I have been reading up on the effects of l-arginine and L-lysine and helping with human growth hormone.

I'm wondering if anyone has used L-lysine over arginine, and has seen results. I know they are both the amino acids that help HGH, but is one superior over the other?
I would just suck it up, and use arginine, but unfortunately due to a virus I've been living with for two years, I cannot use arginine, as it will exacerbate my situation.

Thankfully I found out the difference before I started using it. But again, has anyone seen results with lysine?

Any answers would be appreciated!

I had my hormones tested and I am high in testosterone. From what I read, the following herbs can lower testosterone levels:

Black Cohosh
Saw Palmetto
Spearmint Tea
Dong Quai

Which of these would be the best to try not only to lower my testosterone but also for NBE?

girls which is better dim or I3C ? i'm confused

Hey girls,

I'm wondering about this combo. Maca + progesterone cream.
My blood test told me my DHEA is much lower than normal and all my other sex hormones (estrogen, progesterone, testosterone) are at the lower end of normal. Especially progesterone. However, prolactin, was on the higher range.

So I am thinking about taking Maca since it is supposed to raise DHEA, it explaines why I feel so good while I was taking it, but I need to lower the dose I took before so I will not be taking it daily since it gave me acne and seriously high libido.

I also read that Maca raises testosterone and estrogen, but not sure if it raises progesterone so I was thinking about starting the cream another time. I did before, it made me feel better, but I think my breasts got a little smaller after using it.

Maca raises testosterone and can raise DHT, it must do in my case because of the acne. I read that green tea extract and soy together could greatly reduce the convertion into DHT.

So I was thinking about taking maca, progesterone cream and rotate an anti DHT like green tea extract and soy, zinc, and I saw some people wondering if apple cider vinegar could be a DHT blocker of some kind. At least when I take apple cider vinegar my skin looks fantastic and it is great for acne. So I am including it to my program.

I'm still going to battle the biggest reason for my hormonal imbalance .... STRESS!!! I have some anxiety and I am a stressed person so I am guessing I am giving myself adrenal fatigue by producing so much cortisol that my adrenals can't produce enough DHEA. I guess I need to switch jobs and do something drastic about my relationship. I just started yoga and I love it!!

So I am guessing my stress is giving me small underdeveloped breasts and let's see if all this will help me feel better and give me beautiful normally sized breasts

Please comment if you have any thoughts about this. I feel so alone in this journey since I am not telling my friends any of this. They only believe in medicine and plastic surgery.

Hi all,

I've been taking fenugreek,saw palmetto and wild yam herbal pills, each herb being a total of 1725 mg daily. I also take a dropper of fenugreek extract in tea daily with a multivitamin and flax seed oil and sometimes the occasional massages if I have the time. It's been 6 weeks and there hasn't been any progress since I've started but I know that it takes much longer for those that start off with practically nothing, so I'm willing to do this for 4-6 months.
I was just just wondering if i can have your input and advice about the times to take the herb and with what liquids. Is it best to wash these pills down with water, juice or milk? I've been taking these pills just before I have my meals. Is this the best time to have them or should I really be having them half hour/hour before meals?
Another question would be should I take a higher dosage of these herbs or should I try and consume more foods that are higher in phyto estrogens?

Any answers and advice would be greatly appreciated as it gets quite dis-couraging when you haven't had the slightest bit of progress.
I guess I just have to be really patient and persistent!

Thanks again!