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Split morning ish and before bed 
1800  fenugreek 
2400  shavarti
4000  msm
500mg  x vit c
1x Dr derg Vit d +k
1200  aloe vera
1000 colostrum 
1000 saw palmetto extract 
1200 Berberine 
1gx Ovastistol 
2gx pumpkin seed oil
1000mg Flaxseed
400mg chasteberry fruit at night
Sprintec birth control 
1 x Vit b complex
2.5 pumps progesterone cream with few drops volufiline  massage at night
1 scoop vital proteins collagen
1 packet placenta c jelly 
1000mg beet root lunch/morning

(Goats rue tincture and capsules on the way)

Is ancestral supplements placenta a good thing to add. Has 1500mg bovine placenta and 1500 beef liver. Done side is it's 6 pills a serving 

So this is my current routine. I'm currently 34d and looking to increase to whatever I can get without increasing midsection fat too much. Is there anything I should change, add, or delete from the program? Tried the flaxseed massage. Didn't like the oil on my sheets tho

I've had success with my regiment (2 cup sizes) over the past 6 months, but progress really slowed so I took a two week break in January and got back to my regiment about 3 weeks ago. I think there might be some steady growth, but it is super hard to tell and I haven't had the telltale signs of growth that I've had in the past since coming back. Should I just be patient? Is 3 weeks since my break just too soon to think about changing the regiment in any way?

Should I try out different herbs? Heard good things about goats rue, but I know that it is similar to fenugreek so if I tried that should I cut out the fenugreek or do both?

Here's my current program, spread over the day:
- 2,400 fenugreek extract (50% saponins)

Hello, so a little about me

I'm 20 years old, 5'4 tall, female

haven't had hormones tested, just tested out for having vitamin D deficiency, but I suspect I have PCO'S: black body hair EVERYWHERE even though my hair is light brown, slightly tuberous breasts, irregular menstruation, moody, always bloated no matter how little I eat, back, chest acne and very slight acne on the face, oily hair, you name it.

Been a 38B cup since I was 12, my breasts are slightly asymmetrical, the left one is a full B, right is a C cup, hence so far I'm just massaging the little one.

measurements:
Band: 35 inches
Cup: 39 inches

So I started only with fenugreek supplement and oil 3 months ago for 2 weeks, had to quit it cause it made me gain incredible amounts of weight, constipation, worsened acne, and gave me a rash on my left breast... Scariest part, my skin around my left breast was starting to feel extremely rough to the point it was hard to move them during massage, so I had to quit cold turkey, since I read those are symptoms of fibrocystic breasts, geez.

I went a little crazy and bought all the supplements needed for breast growth I believed could be best for my body. So I have bought:

PM from Ainterol 500 mg
Goat's Rue from Vegavero 5.500 mg
BO from Swansons
White Peony from Life Extension 600 mg
WY from vit4ever 880 mg
MSM from Solgar 1000 mg

Oils for massage daytime:

Licorice, Goat's Rue, Fennel

Cream for nighttime:

Progesterone from Wild yam 

Teas during the day:

Spearmint, Turmeric, Fennel, Licorice, Maca with green tea.

Diet:

Coffee with almond milk and fruits in the morning, protein lunch usually rice and chicken, and salad for dinner, always with nuts and raisins. I cut dairy products since I've noticed they worsened my acne. 


Like I said I went a bit crazy, but so far I'm slowly incorporating each one, what I don't know it's:
what dosage should I take of each or if this combination is too much, should I take something out?

What my program has been 2 months ago, noticed some tenderness and more roundness throughout the end of the month:

2x PM 500 mg everyday. 
Only had Fennel oil at that time so massaged just with that.

My program this month (plus teas and massage with oils):

2x PM 500 mg every day
4x Goat's Rue 5.500 mg 

Massage with Fennel, goat's rue, and licorice oils
(Still waiting for the PC cream to arrive on the mail)

I've noticed some slight growth, gained maybe half an inch on both breasts and they seem more symmetrical, have noticed some weight loss, skin looks better, bras are uncomfortable too, and almost all the time feel tenderness.

Just a few days I discovered about cycling and correct PM dosages, it seems I should only be taking 1x 500 mg if it's from Ainterol during all phases and zero intake during menstruation? I still don't have this very clear, I would really appreciate if anyone could explain it or send a thread where it has been explained   my period is coming very late this month and I'm afraid I won't have it. 

I'll be incorporating Wild Yam next, but like I said I have no idea what dosages I should be taking considering this combination, I would sooo much appreciate any help or info!! 

Dream size is 38DD  :')

Can someone please help me know what foods can convert Free T (free testosterone) into estrogen

Hello everyone! 
First post, long-time lurker. My girlfriend has been dabbling with NBE for almost 2 years and has experienced awesome growth within that time. Since she was a teenager her weight has always fluctuated between 120 and 150. She's now approaching the high end of that again at 145 but her breasts have never been over a B cup. She's now almost a D. Due to this, she's now looking to take NBE more seriously, but she's no good with forums and I'm more familiar with herbs anyway (herbal spiritualist parents) so I'll be posting on her behalf for now.

Some background if it's relevant:
Large butts (her mom) and large breasts (her grandma) are common on her mom's side of the family. Not so much her dad's. She has no measurable goal right now except to grow bigger.
Starting Measurements: 5'4, 120lb, 33/28 bust, 26 waist, 37 hips.
Most Recent Measurements: 140 lb, 36/31 bust, 27 waist, 40 hips.
As you can see, the majority of her weight is deposited in her hips and thighs.
She's 25 and about to start combination birth control.
She does not track her cycle as they're highly irregular but if the birth control makes them regular then she will. 

Diet consists mostly of:
Eggs & Bacon
Chicken or Steak
Carbs: mac n cheese, mashed potato, french fries.
Veggies/Salad
Ice Cream

She needs a low-maintenance regimen.
Her current daily regimen is: (Ingredients in order)

Pure Body Cream on breasts x1-2/day + 15 min massage (Anemarrhena asphodeloides root, PM, Progesterone, Wild Yam)
Nutrithick Gain Capsules x2 (Maca, Fenugreek, Blessed Thistle, Saw Palmetto, L-Lysine, & PM)
Nutrithick Gain Syrup x2 (PM, Blessed Thistle, and Dandelion Root)

The following is imbibed in a smoothie once daily:
Fruits (Strawberry/Banana)
Whole Milk
Garden of Life Protein Powder
Vital Protein Collagen Peptides (Bovine Organ sourced Collagen Powder)
Cinnamon Powder
Flax Seeds (to be replaced with GABA and White Peony Root Powder)

I'm trying to cobble together a powder-based, mostly smoothie-imbibed regimen for her to take once or twice daily.
How effective is this looking so far? I'm trying to cover the bases as outlined in B.i.G.G. 
Are there problems with putting these ingredients in a cold/frozen blended smoothie?
Any and all suggestions appreciated!

Hello all,

I have posted on here before expressing my frustration with slow, almost absent growth. 

I take 3000mg MSM x 1000mg Vit C, 1500mg 50% Saponin Fenugreek and 1000mg Saw Palmetto daily. For the first 2 months I have experienced swelling which made me believe that I was 32DD, but now I am back to 32D with saggy, almost tubular looking breasts. I am also 125 lbs which is 10 lbs more than before i began the program. I do not know what it is that I am doing wrong; it's been impinging on me mentally.

All of your suggestions will be appreciated.

Hello everyone!

I have begun my NBE journey at the beginning of 2022, but never stuck to it until this october. 

My regimen starting the first week of october has been(every day):
-4000 mg of MSM and 1000 mg of Vit C
-1000 mg of fenugreek
-300 mg of PM

I had to quit PM recently as it was creating complications with my periods. 

I cannot deny that I have seen some growth given I was a 32D at the beginning, and am now 32DD. However, it seems like they have been deflating? for the past month  as my bras have been feeling loose. It also demotivates me that I gained about 10 lbs in the interim without experiencing MAJOR growth; I assumed that I would be at least 32E after my weight shot up to 127lbs from 116lbs. 

Any help/guidance would be appreciated

Hey guys I have been wanting to add some herbs to my program for a while but I am really not sure how to get started with cycling at all. Are there any good threads on how to cycle herbs properly? I've been wanting to take Saw Palmetto and Milk Thistle, maybe fenugreek but I have tried it in the past and it didn't really make any progress. How should I cycle these, and is there a better one to start first, as I do not want to overwhelm my body with too much at once? I am also on BC. Thanks! I have also been thinking of taking BO, does this need to be cycled too?

How much is 600 mg of fenugreek powder in terms of teaspoons or tablespoons? I would like to stop buying expensive, non plant based capsules. 

I see fenugreek in food stores. But I don’t want to OD on it and stop my growth. What exactly would the powder equate to in terms of soaked seed? My gut feeling is that the 650 mg capsule is half a tablespoon. Does anyone have any confirmation?

Now I know that massage is important to growth, especially when it comes to the production of prolactin, but when using herbs does anybody know how important massage is? I try to get to it every day, but is it so important that on days where I'm not able to get around to massaging is it basically a wasted day? I'd imagine not, but I just really don't know. Also, if it is super crucial, how much better is a small 5 minute massage than nothing? I normally try to do 1-2 30 minute massages.

The reason I'm so curious is I know that a lot of women's breasts grow throughout their life, depending on hormonal changes from various things, without massaging. Just trying to gauge how hard I should work to make sure I get those massages in, or if it is okay to take a chill pill on it knowing I'm still going to make some progress.