Hello, I'm Bri. I've been on and off this site for a year or two now, but this is my first time posting. I'm 18, I wear a 30-32d bra and my measurement are;
I always wear a push up bra and it makes my chest 34-34.5" I would like to get my breast to be 34.5-35" without a bra. When I first started my NBE journey I was around 30-31"(I think, it was a long time ago) and in 2013 or 2014. I haven't really been consistent with anything but I have noticed some great fullness and growth with certain things. I took Pm a year ago and all it did was make me gain 5lbs in less than a month so I stopped that, but then I added it to a cream and noticed fullness right away and grew .5-1 inch from that. Also 2 or 3 years ago I ordered nature day and noticed fullness right away and gain .5 of an inch in a month (I think it was the Dong Quai or saw palmetto). And for the past month I have been massaging with flaxseed oil, though I haven't had any growth in measurements, my breast are very full and look how they look right before my period all the time.
I own many supplements already; flaxseed oil 1000mg, fenugreek 610mg, panax ginseng 480mg, ginko biloba 120mg, EPO 1000mg, vitamin D3 1000iu, and one called femal hormone blend with (black cososh, dong quai, passion flower, red respberry, fenugreek, licorice, cramp bark, chamomile, saw palmetto, wild yam, butternut, and kelp) 920mg.
And two herbal extracts (liquid) the nature day one with ( saw palmetto fennel seed, fenugreek, dong quai, and blessed thistle), and one called happy menopause with (wild yam, dong quai, chaste tree berries, black cohosh, milk thistle, motherwort, and Lobelia herb)
I would love to use up all these herbs, but if not that's fine too. I was thinking I'm estrogen dominant or have excessive estrogen but I'm really not sure anymore.
*****I was thinking Bovine ovary, has anyone had results with that? I was thinking of taking L-tyrosine, MSM, kelp, and sawpalmetto with it, anything else or should I not take anything with it?
Red clover (really want to try this, anyone had good results?), EPO, Licorice (iffy about this, opinions?), wild yam, kelp, fenugreek, MSM, and Maca (what kind?) or panax ginseng. Would this be too many herbs to take at one time? Should I take any of these out and/or add something else?
I understand the basic of NBE but would just like some other opinions. Also do any of the herbs need to be taken at certain time according to my period?
As for something topical I use booby stacked in the morning, and been using flaxseed oil at night. I was thinking of adding PM and maybe Hyalronic acid or a couple other things to the flaxseed oil. I've been contemplating getting a noogleberry system, is it worth it, will it help?
Sorry about it being so long, but I been all over this site and I can't seem to find the answers I'm looking for or even know if this program will work. Thank you!
I've been drinking lots of fennel tea and hope to soon start adding spearmint too. Might even try the capsules one day. I'm confused though; reading some of the posts on here, some members say that you should take spearmint (anti-androgen) for 14 days, starting from the first day of your cycle (period). Others say that you should take it when your period ends, luteal phase etc. Which is correct?
By the way, I didn't know that you had to take herbs/teas during a specific phase of your cycle. I've been drinking fennel (phytoestrogen) nearly every day. Could this be counterproductive?? What are your thoughts?
I'm reading this book about genetic mutations, and this came up. It's nothing new, but it prompted me to want to discover how destructive herbs could be for reproductive ability. It didn't seem like it was difficult for the sheep to hit the disruptive limit.
Survival of the Sickest: The Surprising Connections Between Disease and Longevity:
Quote:Clover, sweet potato, and soy all belong to a group of plants that contain a class of chemicals called phytoestrogens. Sounds familiar, right? It should. Phytoestrogens mimic the effect of animal sex hormones such as estrogen. When animals eat too much of a plant that contains phytoestrogens, the overload of estrogenlike compounds wreaks havoc on their reproductive capability.
There was a sheep-breeding crisis in Western Australia during the 1940s. Otherwise healthy sheep weren’t getting pregnant or were losing their young before giving birth. Everyone was stumped until some bright agricultural specialists discovered the little culprit— European clover. This type of clover produces a potent phytoestrogen called formononetin as a natural defense against grazing predators. And, yes, if you’re a plant, a sheep is a predator! Accustomed to the humidity of Europe, the imported clover plants were struggling to cope with the drier Australian climate. When clover has a bad year— not enough rain or sunshine, or too much rain or sunshine— it protects itself by limiting the size of the next generation of predators. It increases production of formononetin and prevents the birth of baby grazers by sterilizing their would-be parents.
The next time you’re looking for some convenient birth control, you don’t have to snack on a field of clover, of course. But if you take many forms of the famous “Pill,” you’re not doing something all that different. The gifted chemist Carl Djerassi based his development of the Pill on just this kind of botanical birth control. He wasn’t using clover, though; he was using sweet potatoes— the Mexican yam to be exact. He started with disogenin, a phytoestrogen produced by the yam, and from that base, he synthesized the first marketable contraceptive pill in 1951.
Yams aren’t the only source of phytoestrogens in the human diet. Soy is rich in a phytoestrogen called genistein. It’s worth noting that today many processed foods, including commercial baby formulas, use soy because it’s an inexpensive source of nutrition. There’s a growing concern among a small number of scientists that we don’t have a handle on the potential long-term effects of what seems to be an ever-greater level of phytoestrogens and soy in our diet.
It freaked me out a tiny (huge) bit. It makes me wonder if progesterone has a similar effect in large doses as well.
I don't know if you all remember, but about 6 months ago I started taking PM and posted about my ordeal of not getting my period and breasts that shrunk.
So this time, I've been taking shatavari and maca during follicular phase in hopes to increase during follicular phase. I almost always get a lot of luteal swelling that starts right after ovulation or a few days after. I would be happy if I remained that size for my whole cycle and not just 2 weeks before my period, so that is what I was trying to accomplish with the herbs. Well my period is due in 9 days and my breasts have shrunk horribly as they did with the PM and have absolutely no volume or firmness. I am pretty certain that I did ovulate, so I don't think it is due to an annovulatory cycle. The size is a huge difference from what they normally are during luteal phase. It seems like anything I take my breasts shrink during luteal phase. I really don't know why my body responds this way, but it is very frustrating. Does anyone else have side effects like this?
I seem to come and go on this site as of late but I am going through some things-- my cortisol levels are very high and I seem to be losing weight like I did when I first started nbe.
would anyone please give me some advice to lower stress hormones or anything that can battle losing any of my curve? What Is a good thing to target right now? aromatase? Healthy fats? Lowering androgen? Thank you all so much
I want to put the hops in my routine.
Flowers or pellets?
Some advice on how and how much to take
Thanks and and Happy New Year