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...Oh yeah, aren't there natural treatments for baldness? He might not be able to grow it back, but I think he can halt hair loss with herbs.

If I had a boyfriend or husband, I would ask him to do the massages for me. Tongue
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Agreed...

(20-01-2014, 06:04 AM)ELLACRAIG Wrote: [ -> ]Well I think all you have done is nurture you're body to enhance you to your full potential. And this clearly is your full "natural" potential.
You didn't buy or pay for these boobs you have now, it was in YOU the whole time,.. you just needed to make some natural adjustments or balance your body out if you will to bring them out. As with the rest of us. They aren't brought and paid for! Or Vain! They are YOURS and he loves them Smile
I totally get why you wont tell him and neither would I tell mine (although hes caught me too many times now id be a fool to think he doesn't already know!)

But ps I'd run with this if he ever finds out! Wink

If there was a "like" button for this, I would totally click it! Forcing something to grow by a natural means does not make it any less natural... at least in my opinion. People do that when they lift weights and eat protein to force their muscles to grow. People force their stomachs to shrink by losing fat. In physical therapy, the therapists teach us how to force our bodies to become stronger as we would otherwise naturally be weak, and with speech therapists, they teach us how to force ourselves to talk in a way that we normally do not. Athletic trainers force their athletes to push themselves to accomplish skills they otherwise were typically not able to do. Nothing wrong at all with any of those things... and I consider myself pretty conservative on those matters. Ella has a great point. When things are done naturally, "forcing" can only get you to YOUR fullest potential, if that.

I guess I don't understand the need for secrecy if there is nothing wrong with it though. Sure, I understand secrecy for some time just while you are trying to figure it all out at first, but for forever? Is your reason for keeping it from your husband the same as Jen's reason, Ella (which is, to avoid being judged negatively and/or to avoid his struggle in coming to understand)? As far as I see it, if there is nothing wrong with what I am doing, it is HIS problem if he cannot bring himself to understand it! Not my problem. I have no shame; therefore, no reason to keep it in secret. I'ma do what I'ma do and be proooooud of it! People need to check themselves if they are doing something that they are ashamed of, and if they should be doing it at all. As they probably shouldn't.

(20-01-2014, 04:29 PM)roseblossom Wrote: [ -> ]Hmm, maybe this is my way of justifying myself, but I don't think NBE is not natural. You use your own body and natural ingredients to change. However, this is why I'm personally uncomfortable with using a pump: a machine (of a sort) is required for breast growth. If any aspect of NBE could be argued as unnatural, it would be pumps.
NBE, in my eyes, is no different from muscle building or exercise to change other parts of your body. You are forcing your muscles to grow. Is that unnatural?

You would be justifying yourself only if you would do breast growth regardless and then, in the aftermath, decided to come up with something to feel better about doing it upon feeling some guilt. So only you would be the one to know that Wink With NBE, a lot of thought usually goes into it before doing it (because it is a huge investment of time), at least by mature members.

When it comes to tissue expansion (pumps, in this case), I consider it to be a forced-natural occurrence as well. Depending on the type of tissue expansion and the body part involved, a machine may or may not be needed. For the lips, only a small shotglass or deodorant cap can be used to accomplish this. Nothing wrong with that. And if my man wanted to grow his peen, I would not judge him for it. That is because I would know that my man just wanted to do it to try it because it would be "awesome if he could" but wouldn't be terribly upset if it didn't work (like my case with NBE), and I see absolutely no shame to that. As long as he loves himself the way he is already and this act of growing his peen does not determine his happiness or confidence, there is no shame. The only time there is shame to it is when a person "needs to." You know what I mean. Or "really, really wants it." Meaning, their happiness is dependent on the success of it. And if I didn't know, I would assume the best (ie that he was confident in this case). This is because no relationship should be so judgmental, where one another is afraid of revealing anything to the other for the sake of avoiding judgment. If my man wanted to grow his peen I'd probably laugh cuz I'd be thinking he doesn't need it, but I would totally be able to relate and understand. Out of respect for his desires, I'd smile and remember how human everyone is, and we all have different wants. Still, confident people have healthy desires to make improvements. It is healthy. I would only be concerned for him (notice, not think differently of him) if he showed signs of "needing" to grow his peen, or, a lack of confidence.

And @ Jen:
Advice on the hair, though: SHAVE THE REST OFF!! If he has a nice shaped cranium, anyway. That is the best perk to a guy with a receding hairline, because a shaved head in my opinion is soooo sexy... omg. I love it better than a full head of hair! You just might, too Wink He might have a hard time parting with his hair, though. This is why there are so many comb-overs in the world Rolleyes It takes confidence and guts to shave off the rest... and as I said, a nicely shaped cranium! It is certainly an option at least Wink
Tina my husbsnd thinks im a total greenie nutjob as it is! :p all because I try to have us all eat organic, take vitamens, avoid environmental toxins. He thinks its all hogwash as with his whole family. He teases the living daylights out of me as it is (in a friendly ribbing manner). I bring out a contraption like the noggleberry and tell him this thing will make my boobs bigger and il get laughed at to kingdom come!! I could honestly go up a full cup size and tell him how I did it and he would still blame it on other reasons ie weight gain etc! Thats if hed notice at all!!! :p
But I love him dearly and he has started noticing my boobs a bit more now.
Soooo in summary. If I dont want to get mocked I keep this to myself Smile
(20-01-2014, 10:45 PM)ELLACRAIG Wrote: [ -> ]Tina my husbsnd thinks im a total greenie nutjob as it is! :p all because I try to have us all eat organic, take vitamens, avoid environmental toxins. He thinks its all hogwash as with his whole family. He teases the living daylights out of me as it is (in a friendly ribbing manner). I bring out a contraption like the noggleberry and tell him this thing will make my boobs bigger and il get laughed at to kingdom come!! I could honestly go up a full cup size and tell him how I did it and he would still blame it on other reasons ie weight gain etc! Thats if hed notice at all!!! :p
But I love him dearly and he has started noticing my boobs a bit more now.
Soooo in summary. If I dont want to get mocked I keep this to myself Smile

Ah, I understand. I guess I have spent my entire youth being mocked and so, as I have matured, don't give a damn anymore! I actually am pretty proud of who I am, quirkiness and all. And I completely understand why ANYONE might laugh at the noogleberry. Honestly, I DID when I first started reading about it! I was like, "wth?! surely this is a joke..." Which is why I would understand keeping it a secret for some time but after having success with it, I would see no reason to continue! I'd be proud of it at that point. And if he is stubborn and not open-minded about it (which sounds like he is! silly boy Tongue) even upon seeing you grow, then I personally would just poke it right back at him with my head held high. Because YOU know that you're right, and that is all that matters. Honestly, I probably wouldn't settle down with someone who didn't value my quirkiness to begin with, honestly! The point of being in a relationship is to be accepted by the other person, at least for me. It sounds like you really do love each other though, so I hope somehow it all works out! Hopefully he will eventually at least tolerate the idea of it Wink Because secrecy is no fun unless it is meant for the purpose of surprise! Which is why I think you should surprise him. hahahaha
(21-01-2014, 12:06 AM)timarie Wrote: [ -> ]
(20-01-2014, 10:45 PM)ELLACRAIG Wrote: [ -> ]Tina my husbsnd thinks im a total greenie nutjob as it is! :p all because I try to have us all eat organic, take vitamens, avoid environmental toxins. He thinks its all hogwash as with his whole family. He teases the living daylights out of me as it is (in a friendly ribbing manner). I bring out a contraption like the noggleberry and tell him this thing will make my boobs bigger and il get laughed at to kingdom come!! I could honestly go up a full cup size and tell him how I did it and he would still blame it on other reasons ie weight gain etc! Thats if hed notice at all!!! :p
But I love him dearly and he has started noticing my boobs a bit more now.
Soooo in summary. If I dont want to get mocked I keep this to myself Smile

Ah, I understand. I guess I have spent my entire youth being mocked and so, as I have matured, don't give a damn anymore! I actually am pretty proud of who I am, quirkiness and all. And I completely understand why ANYONE might laugh at the noogleberry. Honestly, I DID when I first started reading about it! I was like, "wth?! surely this is a joke..." Which is why I would understand keeping it a secret for some time but after having success with it, I would see no reason to continue! I'd be proud of it at that point. And if he is stubborn and not open-minded about it (which sounds like he is! silly boy Tongue) even upon seeing you grow, then I personally would just poke it right back at him with my head held high. Because YOU know that you're right, and that is all that matters. Honestly, I probably wouldn't settle down with someone who didn't value my quirkiness to begin with, honestly! The point of being in a relationship is to be accepted by the other person, at least for me. It sounds like you really do love each other though, so I hope somehow it all works out! Hopefully he will eventually at least tolerate the idea of it Wink Because secrecy is no fun unless it is meant for the purpose of surprise! Which is why I think you should surprise him. hahahaha

Thats the plan tina Smile! ( look what i got hubby and guess where they came from..) Yes its very hard not seeing eye to eye on matters such as natural health. Its very important to me but such is life. You take the good with the bad Smile
(20-01-2014, 04:29 PM)roseblossom Wrote: [ -> ]If I had a boyfriend or husband, I would ask him to do the massages for me. Tongue

Wouldn't even HAVE to ask ME!
(21-01-2014, 12:34 AM)ELLACRAIG Wrote: [ -> ]Yes its very hard not seeing eye to eye on matters such as natural health. Its very important to me but such is life. You take the good with the bad Smile
And you get the big tits you want, you'll see less of him, eye to eye, than you do now!! He'll be eye to tits, you'll be eye to scalp!!
Quote:You would be justifying yourself only if you would do breast growth regardless and then, in the aftermath, decided to come up with something to feel better about doing it upon feeling some guilt. So only you would be the one to know that Wink With NBE, a lot of thought usually goes into it before doing it (because it is a huge investment of time), at least by mature members....

You're right, and I see nothing wrong with it. I just don't want to live in denial, so I give myself a reality check every once in a while. I had extreme breast asymmetry that was really upsetting me. The work I put into fixing it was well worth it... and I think most women in my position would have done the same if they had known the option were available to them. There is no shame in what I did.

That being said, it's not something I would openly share with my family or friends-- but if they asked, I would tell them the truth. A partner is different, on the other hand... so I agree with your sentiments on secrecy and acceptance.

Quote:Wouldn't even HAVE to ask ME!

LOL, that does not surprise me! Tongue
(21-01-2014, 01:44 AM)roseblossom Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:You would be justifying yourself only if you would do breast growth regardless and then, in the aftermath, decided to come up with something to feel better about doing it upon feeling some guilt. So only you would be the one to know that Wink With NBE, a lot of thought usually goes into it before doing it (because it is a huge investment of time), at least by mature members....

You're right, and I see nothing wrong with it. I just don't want to live in denial, so I give myself a reality check every once in a while. I had extreme breast asymmetry that was really upsetting me. The work I put into fixing it was well worth it... and I think most women in my position would have done the same if they had known the option were available to them. There is no shame in what I did.

That being said, it's not something I would openly share with my family or friends-- but if they asked, I would tell them the truth. A partner is different, on the other hand... so I agree with your sentiments on secrecy and acceptance.

Quote:Wouldn't even HAVE to ask ME!

LOL, that does not surprise me! Tongue

It'd be more like, "Honey! It's been 10 minutes since your last massage!! Time for another one!!"
(21-01-2014, 12:34 AM)ELLACRAIG Wrote: [ -> ]Thats the plan tina Smile! ( look what i got hubby and guess where they came from..) Yes its very hard not seeing eye to eye on matters such as natural health. Its very important to me but such is life. You take the good with the bad Smile

Wink I <3 this!!!