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(15-11-2013, 10:53 PM)ELLACRAIG Wrote: [ -> ]Its looking promising for you so far then Smile
Out of interest what herbs were you on for years with no growth? I dont believe ive asked you that one yet? Just so i know if im wasting my time! :p
Ps im measuring close to 35 now from 34! And not during swelling time.. cut right back on noogling, scared myself off it for the time being!
Anyways look 4ward to your updates anyway Smile

Let's see. I used to take Fenugreek, Wild Yam and Fennel. I took these regularly and sometimes thought I was growing but never actually did grow a tad! It was all false swelling. I wasn't fluctuating in weight either. I've worn the same pant size since I was 16 (31 now). Just my boobs going up when the hormones were up and back to teeny when I was off them.

Now when I was on birth control I could get almost as large as I am now! Sometimes I would go back on it just to get my boobs back (sad, I know). It was the greatest bust booster I ever knew of without actually going under the knife. But that too, once I got off it, my boobs would deflate! This is why I am so skeptical with using hormonal boosts. I don't want temporary, I am looking for permanent.
(15-11-2013, 11:17 PM)Jenniferlove Wrote: [ -> ]
(15-11-2013, 10:53 PM)ELLACRAIG Wrote: [ -> ]Its looking promising for you so far then Smile
Out of interest what herbs were you on for years with no growth? I dont believe ive asked you that one yet? Just so i know if im wasting my time! :p
Ps im measuring close to 35 now from 34! And not during swelling time.. cut right back on noogling, scared myself off it for the time being!
Anyways look 4ward to your updates anyway Smile

Let's see. I used to take Fenugreek, Wild Yam and Fennel. I took these regularly and sometimes thought I was growing but never actually did grow a tad! It was all false swelling. I wasn't fluctuating in weight either. I've worn the same pant size since I was 16 (31 now). Just my boobs going up when the hormones were up and back to teeny when I was off them.

Now when I was on birth control I could get almost as large as I am now! Sometimes I would go back on it just to get my boobs back (sad, I know). It was the greatest bust booster I ever knew of without actually going under the knife. But that too, once I got off it, my boobs would deflate! This is why I am so skeptical with using hormonal boosts. I don't want temporary, I am looking for permanent.

Got ya.
Thanks for sharing that jen Smile
Im adamant to only be on my herbal routine for a few months then thats it.
And yes id almost go on birth control for that reason too Smile
Tell you what though ive noticed a pattern if my girlfiends who were on the pill long term all now have pcos..
(15-11-2013, 11:32 PM)ELLACRAIG Wrote: [ -> ]Got ya.
Thanks for sharing that jen Smile
Im adamant to only be on my herbal routine for a few months then thats it.
And yes id almost go on birth control for that reason too Smile
Tell you what though ive noticed a pattern if my girlfiends who were on the pill long term all now have pcos..

What is pcos?
(15-11-2013, 11:37 PM)Jenniferlove Wrote: [ -> ]
(15-11-2013, 11:32 PM)ELLACRAIG Wrote: [ -> ]Got ya.
Thanks for sharing that jen Smile
Im adamant to only be on my herbal routine for a few months then thats it.
And yes id almost go on birth control for that reason too Smile
Tell you what though ive noticed a pattern if my girlfiends who were on the pill long term all now have pcos..

What is pcos?

Polycisitic ovarys . I reckon its hormonal damage from the pill
Lil update: so since being off the herbs the acne really has gone away. I don't know why this is so shocking to me but it is! I have been on herbs for years now AND had chin acne for years. I always had near-perfect skin so this was kind of a big deal. Also being in my early 30's, one would not think they'd have to battle acne worse than when they were a teen!

At first I thought I was just getting a skin irritation from kissing my bf. He has a goatee and I thought maybe he wasn't cleaning it good (food particles harvesting bacteria?). So he made sure to take good care of it and yet the acne continued. I had then up until recently thought it was dairy products as I've read cow's milk can cause chin acne. Now, I am almost positive it is one of the herbs!

Is this my body telling me I am doing harm to it? Excess of something? It is not good to be one's own doctor, blindly trying to figure out what your body needs. I had some obvious signs of excess testosterone so that is what I have been trying to treat mostly. But since I haven't had my hormones tested this is also why I am not on too many herbs.

So once December hits I will slowly re-introduce the herbs to figure out which one is the culprit. Kind of annoying to finally banish the acne only to willingly bring it back into my life!

Just in case anyone is curious, I stopped taking PM, Black Cohosh and Vitex (agnus castus)
And WOW, just like that the marshmallow boobs are back! Yesterday they were still nice and firm and then today BAM, back to mallowy (and smaller). So what does this mean??? I am thinking it means a drop in some specific hormone. There is nothing fun about this stage. Like I said, they get smaller and they are not firm, just incredibly squishy. This happened last month too and then I did get a nice growth surprise, so I HOPE it's just a passing stage. I am incredibly used to going big/small/big/small each month. It never ceases to at least somewhat upset me though.
(18-11-2013, 08:19 PM)Jenniferlove Wrote: [ -> ]And WOW, just like that the marshmallow boobs are back! Yesterday they were still nice and firm and then today BAM, back to mallowy (and smaller). So what does this mean??? I am thinking it means a drop in some specific hormone. There is nothing fun about this stage. Like I said, they get smaller and they are not firm, just incredibly squishy. This happened last month too and then I did get a nice growth surprise, so I HOPE it's just a passing stage. I am incredibly used to going big/small/big/small each month. It never ceases to at least somewhat upset me though.

Hey Love! I totally hate this too! I'm still in this stage! HatredAngry

I want some firmness. I was really looking forward to getting tested but its not going to happen anytime soon for me.

So I'm kicking it up by increasing my BO dose to the recommended as I grew on a low dose(for regards to my thyroid).

I feel like its def my real Boobage but it could be lack of sensitivity or like you said a drop of some hormone. It could also be ptolactin for all we know.


Whatever it is, me no likey! I feel like there's not much to grab, lol. Pumping gives little swelling that does not last but maybe 45 minutes.

BTW, have you measured? I feel like it has affected my measurements.
(18-11-2013, 08:53 PM)tibetan113 Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Love! I totally hate this too! I'm still in this stage! HatredAngry

I want some firmness. I was really looking forward to getting tested but its not going to happen anytime soon for me.

So I'm kicking it up by increasing my BO dose to the recommended as I grew on a low dose(for regards to my thyroid).

I feel like its def my real Boobage but it could be lack of sensitivity or like you said a drop of some hormone. It could also be ptolactin for all we know.


Whatever it is, me no likey! I feel like there's not much to grab, lol. Pumping gives little swelling that does not last but maybe 45 minutes.

BTW, have you measured? I feel like it has affected my measurements.

Prolactin maybe, but why do my boobs simultaneously getting smaller? I would think if it were prolactin they would get larger. Measurement definitely goes down, sometimes dramatically. I am now paying close attention to when this happens and the aftermath. So far I've noticed it's happening mid-month. Last month this went on for a little bit but then I had decent growth. Once my period hit my firmness began coming back and by the end of my period the firmess was back in full-force!

But you say you've had the mallowy-feel for awhile now. I have no clue why yours is lasting longer. Maybe together we can figure this mystery out! Documenting is a great first step.
Well today marks a HUGE victory for me! I bought a 34C bra. First time EVER. At the start of my journey in late March I was wearing a 34A/very loose 34b (meaning I shouldn't have been wearing it).

This bra is a push-up with slight padding BUT I don't care! Why? Because I am still wearing a 34C! Big Grin I will post bare photos a little later to see if I have grown or not. First month no herbs, YIKES! I have no clue if I've grown or not. I see them daily so I don't notice any changes.