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Hi AquaA, I was thinking about you today and thought I need to ask you if everything is ok with you, since you haven't been online for a while.

Sorry to hear the extra weight went to your belly and butt. Did you start gaining weight since you added fenugreek?

I stopped FG some weeks ago and since then I lost 3 pounds...
Hey Peggy thank you so much for asking about me. I'm good, a little depressed though. I seem to be dealing with everything around me by hating myself, past few months have been crazy so I'm trying to stay positive. I just don't feel comfortable in my body, I don't recognize this weight gain, this belly is not mine and neither is my small boobs. I feel so unattractive and boyish.

The weight gain was before FG, been taking FG for 2 weeks now in luteal not planning on taking it in follicular so I'm hopping cycling it wouldn't cause any undesired weight gain. My boobs have been super mushy so I'm hoping it's responding to the FG. Will add gelatinized maca next cycle. How did it go for you with maca? And why did you stop FG?
bonjour aqua,

i was thinking about you as well. How is the NBE? School? boyfriend?
you always have very interesting things to say
Petitefille check your DM Smile

I added to my program massaging with EPO in follicular. I have my period now so won't pay too much attention to the tingles I'm feeling.
Hey AA, been having the same trouble with weight gain in the wrong places! Just remember to tell yourself that it's temporary and you'll be back in shape in no time - stressing makes belly weight stick! Maybe you need to review your lifestyle/ program and decide when things started going downhill and adjust it a bit? Anyway, wish you strength and remember you're still beautiful - I highly doubt enough could have changed since your last photo to make you unattractive!
Thank you isobasic, my life has been so hectic lately. I apologize to everyone who has been sending me DMs and I haven't replied still.

My program as of this cycle consists of massaging with EPO and jojoba oil.
500mg of raw maca (all cycle)
1000mg of fenugreek (in luteal)
And PC (luteal)

My boobs are slowly getting back to the progress I made before. I lost the weight gain of last month but I seem to have lost my butt too!

I was seeing results with 500mg of PM when I took it from day 4-11 but it messed up my cycle really bad, my cycle would last from 18-24 days. Thinking of adding PM cream to my routine & switching to gelatinized Maca with higher doses. Did anyone see results from PM cream? The reviews aren't very encouraging. Going to stick to this program till December.

Any suggestion would be highly appreciated
Day 33 of my cycle and my period is still a no show. Not really bothered since last 2 cycles were inovulatory because of excess estrogen so id rather if it's late than too early.
My boobs are back to looking like they were before this recent deflation so I'm guessing back to being 35 bust. Not measuring yet though, wanna wait till the end of the next cycle.

Been taking 500mg Raw maca (no bad side effects this whole month)
1500mg fenugreek in luteal
And PC in luteal. MSM and fish oil too.

I also lost all the weight I gained before this summer, back to being 55/56 kilos.

My emotions have been quite balanced lately, I'm guessing that's due to Maca. My body hair has been growing super fast, which sucks, also guessing that's due to maca and elevating my Ts.
Can't wait to get my period and start the next cycle adding PM cream, gelatinized maca and higher dose of fenugreek. Also ordered an 18 inch corset and planning on taking shit seriously this time!
That's it for PM and me! Thought I'd take the capsules till I get the cream so I took it from day 4-8 of my cycle then started PC... So it's day 13 and I'm super bloated and I just started spotting! Not sure if it's spotting or yet again another anovulatory cycle. Never taking this shit again!!! I just got the cream delivered today and not sure what to do with it. It's not as potent and most people say it's useless so might just use it's a few cycles from now, when I balance my cycle. Ughhh
(22-10-2014, 02:12 PM)AquaA Wrote: [ -> ]That's it for PM and me! Thought I'd take the capsules till I get the cream so I took it from day 4-8 of my cycle then started PC... So it's day 13 and I'm super bloated and I just started spotting! Not sure if it's spotting or yet again another anovulatory cycle. Never taking this shit again!!! I just got the cream delivered today and not sure what to do with it. It's not as potent and most people say it's useless so might just use it's a few cycles from now, when I balance my cycle. Ughhh

That doesn't sound good!
That's what scares me about herbs/all herbs now. What are we really introducing into our sytems Huh
Im no bloody expert esp with PM but isn't it said if you apply it to your skin it bypasses getting broken down in the stomach liver etc and is more potent.. I know theres room for debate there but the skin is our largest organ Sad id bin it personally
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(22-10-2014, 07:04 PM)ELLACRAIG Wrote: [ -> ]
(22-10-2014, 02:12 PM)AquaA Wrote: [ -> ]That's it for PM and me! Thought I'd take the capsules till I get the cream so I took it from day 4-8 of my cycle then started PC... So it's day 13 and I'm super bloated and I just started spotting! Not sure if it's spotting or yet again another anovulatory cycle. Never taking this shit again!!! I just got the cream delivered today and not sure what to do with it. It's not as potent and most people say it's useless so might just use it's a few cycles from now, when I balance my cycle. Ughhh

That doesn't sound good!
That's what scares me about herbs/all herbs now. What are we really introducing into our sytems Huh
Im no bloody expert esp with PM but isn't it said if you apply it to your skin it bypasses getting broken down in the stomach liver etc and is more potent.. I know theres room for debate there but the skin is our largest organ Sad id bin it personally
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None of the reviews portrayed that, they all said it's weak and might've contributed a bit to their breast growth but wasn't a main component. The PM cream has other oils such as jojoba and avocado so that's why I'm assuming it's much weaker since it's not as concentrated as the capsule.
Ugh don't know why I even took the capsules after so many side affects before. Fenugreek, maca and PC have been giving me great results so far. Sticking to that!
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