[Ginie]

Do you do your massages during the periods? It's a fact that if you massage your breasts (not chi massage) during the periods then the flow will be very light. I knew this even before NBE, tested it and it works for me too.

As for the "chi" massage.. Do you know that it is just a small little part of a ritual for women to increase their energy (mainly sexual)? It has to do with chi energy which everywhere, outside and inside. The ritual is very powerful and you should be careful following the instructions as close as possible. I do highly recommend to read Diane Stein's book Essential Reiki. I was curious and ordered the book. Started reading and was very surprised to know that 1 - "chi massage" is not described correctly by Lucile Sorella, 2 - you shouldn't do 360 rotations! just 36! 3 - if you have cyst or lump it will get worse but if you do the rotations in the opposite direction then they will vanish or will be reduced significantly, 4 - it is useless to do just the rotations without "gathering" you chi energy first in the lower part of your body and then "moving" it up to your breast - by doing just the rotations you bring the disbalance. So, what I'm trying to say is that this is not a massage and you should do it wisely. I really recommend finding this "ritual" in Diane Stein's book, maybe you can download just a part of it.

[Claudia]

Hello Ginie, I have remained surprised with everything it at the massage chi, at the time it is advisable not to realize it the days of period?, and does other one ask, only 36 massages??, in the whole day or two times a day, it is that difference is muchisima, with all that I was doing!.
Have I disburdened the book in pdf, me prodrias to say in that page brings that alone it is necessary to do 36 rotations?, muchisimas thank you for your help!!

[Maz]

That’s really interesting. I so shocked that the video got it so wrong, a lot of us are going round doing 360 rotations. I was going to ask you what does the book say in light of this but figure that would be too much explaining on here and really we should do the reading. I have saved the book in my Amazon basket. I might get it later in the week. I have had an expensive weekend but I get paid this week so I might wait for that to come in. In the mean time if you feel like elaborating Ginie please don’t let that stop you.

[Ginie]

Hola Claudia! Por desgracia no tengo el libro en PDF Mi libro es en sueco.

oh girls please don't get me wrong - I don't think you're doing any harm by massaging the way it is shown in that video! I'm just saying that it's worth getting to know the "original" ritual. I wasn't that much into that "chi energy" thing. Yes, I heard about it, even my yoga teacher talks about it. The ritual Daine Stein describes is coming from daossism tradition where they work not just with body but with this energy too. It's strange for most of us to hear that we can accumilate this energy, move it around in our bodies, use it where it's needed. But I'm sure it's working. If you think about certain part of your body or organ - that's where you place the "chi". I'm afraid of explaining something wrong because trust me - I'm no specialist in this. Maybe you can just google it and see for yourself if I explained something wrong?

Anyways, I think I will find some time and post what this ritual consists of, over here in this forum. My book is not in English, so you will have to use my translation Maybe it was silly of me to buy the whole book purely because I wanted to read about this "chi massage for breast enlargement". But I found it very interesting even though I can't use most things which are described there. I first downloaded it somewhere (torrents) but the copy was bad - few pages were missing, only the beginning of the massage was there. So I had to buy the book!

If used correctly this ritual is said to improve the whole "feminine system" - menstrual cycle, breasts, figure, skin, sex drive, so on. OK, now I understand I just have to translate and put it over here, I guess you're really curious now! I promise to do it during the week!

[Claudia]

Gracias por tu tiempo de todas formas voy a mirar el libro que tengo en pdf

[Nila]

Waiting with bated breath, Ginie.

It's very nice of you to take the time to do that.

[Ginie]

I will start by translating as much as I can every day and will be adding text by editing this message.
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The beginning of the exercise is the same for men and women.
Enter a meditation state and begin microcosmic orbit. Feel the chi as a fire energy and move it from Hara (belly button) to Huaiing (crotch).Then move it up the spine to pariental chakra. Then move your energy to the front part of your body and return it to Hara. From this moment the exercise for women is different.

Begin the exercise with "root lock" (will find the detailed description later) . To do it sit on a floow and press your heel to your vagina and clitoris. Use firm, permanent pressure as if there's a glass ball or a cusion between your legs. Press your tongue just behind your upper teeth. This is the main posture for most of Kundalini or Chi-gong exersices. Then move your inner wqarmth to your hands, rubbing the palms against each other untill they become warm. Put your hands on your breasts, feel the warmth and start massaging in the direction of upwards and outwards. Do it 18 times without touchinf the nipples and feel how chi is moving to your vagina, pineal gland, pituitary, root chakra, third eye.

To be continued!

[Maz]

Thank you for posting this its a lot of effort and time so thank you.

[Ginie]

Have to make a new post because I can't edit my last message. So..
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Rotation "upwards" is called dispertion.
Make a pause, stop the rotations. Touch your nipples very lightly with your fingers. Move the streams of your energy from your breasts, vagina, pineal gland and third eye to your heart chakra. Repeat the cycle which consists of 18 massaging motions. You should repeat it 2 or 4 times sending your energy to your heart chakra after each cycle.

Then make the rotations in the opposite direction - down and inwards. Collect the energy in your nipples and move it to the spine from the deeper tisues of your breasts. Then move it to the kidneys point. Do it 2 or 4 times making 18 circle massaging movements each time. Rotation "inwards" is called inversion.

I think it is important to note that the "rotations" she is showing is not like the rotations shown in Lucile's video at all. The drawing in the book clearly shows how you should place your hands and how you should move them. The hands are gently holding the breasts from underneath, fingers of both hands meet in the center except for the thumb - it is placed on the outer side of the breast. In Lucile's video nipples are covered but it shouldn't be so. Diane says "without touching the nipple. In the drawing the nipples are not covered! So you kinda slide your hands on the breasts with some pressure sort of twisting it but gently.

Move your hands away from breasts to the kidneys point, on your back lower than where ribs are. Start massaging and slightly shaking this area (9 or 18 times) and then stop. Repeat this set for 2 or 4 times. Relax after each set. Feel the heat in kidneys area.

Again move your hands. This time massage your lower abdomen from groin to ovaries area. Then massage liver and gallbladder under right ribs and spleen under the left ribs. Make you movements both in the outward and inwards directions 36 times for each position. Massage the vagina area to gather the energy there. Stop and feel the flow of chi. Place your right hand on your vagina and the lift hand on your heart. Let the eternal love flow into your heart. Let the energy of earth flow into you (I know from chi-gong that you should realise the earth undeer your feel, its magnificent power and energy and then let that energy flow into you, sort of your feet open up like little door and the energy from Earth starts flooding you :-) Finish by doing clollecting the energy in Hara area.

To be continued![/u]

[Claudia]

Hola Ginie, con tu permiso pongo un enlace al libro de Reiki esencial,asi las chicas podran ver los dibulos donde se detallan los masajes...

http://books.google.es/books?id=DugwDm35HV8C&pg=PA141&lpg=PA141&dq=reiki+esencial+masajes+pechos&source=bl&ots=LBTknE0mFU&sig=zd0y1XcyBawVWLC6QLDGTIX9ypk&hl=es&ei=vCmnTfOOFYyaOvLrofgJ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CEUQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false