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Well yes i prefer some softness to my body because its much more feminine I will tell you i could gain muscle with no real effort.

That's cool, but nonetheless irrelevant. I was talking about rolls of fat and bulges, and those two things do not equal softness. I was discussing the former so, unless they are one in the same thing to you, your comment about softness is irrelevant.

yes its ridiculous to wear a corset for a waist that doesnt look unnatural because thats the whole point of a corset.

That's interesting. Most people from what I understand do not want to make it obvious that they go through an unnatural means to tuck in their stomach. For costuming, YES, because corseting can also be a style of fashion, but for the purpose of trimming a waistline? That's the first I've heard. I know that when I ever get around to begin corseting, that I will want people to think that I am naturally that size! If we did not mind looking fake, we (the ladies of this forum) would use artificial means to grow breasts. So I think it is safe to say that most of us prefer to look natural.

What does makeup have to do with anything I personally dont ever wear it i have big lips clear skin and dark blue eyes I dont need it the only fake thing about me is i dye my black hair blonde

It's called an anology. Analogies are made to help illustrate a concept being presented. I do not understand what your beauty has to do with any of this. Congratulations, though!

but i have nothing against women who do wear make up fake hair or clothes that change their shape temporarily its just called style rather than permenant change

I think we are on the same page with this. Again, I was addressing not those who wear corsets for fashion purposes.

I want to look like me not cathy not you not not plus size girl in the corset but im not saying any of them look bad they are all different beautiful in their own way you should respect that not everyones ideal of beauty is no boobs and manly looking arms.

That's great. That is the mentality that everyone should have, plus I think you look great (at least from the little bit of you I have been able to see) so I would hope that you wouldn't wish to look like anyone else! As for your attempt to make a low blow, it really does not apply to me as that is also not my ideal of beauty. After all, I was talking about rolls of fat and bulges. A person does NOT have to have manly looking arms and no boobs to avoid rolls of fat and bulges. Enough said.

Well, in conclusion, I apologize if in any way I have indirectly offended you or anyone else with my opinion. I don't think anyone on this thread falls into the category of which I speak, so really no one should be offended. I simply stated my opinion of proportion just as others had, but for some reason it is clear that you took mine in particular personally (and I say personally because you continue to bring yourself up in a defensive manner into our discussion and have proceeded to go as far as to make an over-generalization about me, which is honestly comical as it is ignorant but nonetheless I can see that it all roots from you feeling offended; therefore, I understand and will not take it personally). So, if my opinion of people having fat rolls and bulges while ONLY tucking in one's waist (and to EXTREME measures) as looking unproportional insulted you indirectly, I apologize. I was merely stating an opinion that I believe you misunderstood.