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I just thought the comment about a less than 22in waste being 'gross' was quite negative, thats all. And one message has a certain tone about it that all corset wearers have a bulge and 'rolls of fat' around thier bra line, when they dont, yiu might not have an athletic type tone to your belly but i wouldnt call it a bulge. The woman in the video is an extreme case, which i do think is silly.

Yes, I agree with you about the <22" waist not needing to be gross, as I mentioned earlier that it depends on proportion (and Mocha made a good point about height). I did not write that post... but I did write about the fat around the bra band and the bulge under the corset! If you looked at the video, I was commenting on Cathie, and how, despite her waist being so small, she still had a lot of fat rolling around in certain places. If you read the message, no where did it say that all corset wearers have that problem. I never said that. I never even said that most do. I have just seen photos here and there so it is not uncommon, so I said it baffles me that they find that attractive. Clearly speaking of those who DO have that extreme issue, not of the other women. And again, as always, I make point to mention that it is my opinion and what I think...

^you are sounding a lot like a gym snob right now im sorry
I think the bigger girl looks curvy and sexy too her waist isnt out of proportion just shaped and shes not trying to hide the fact shes wearing a corset cant women be allowed to dress up a feel good whatever their size you dont know her she could have health issues that dont allow her to be skinny or this might well be her idea of beauty.
The other women to me looks like the corsets not doing much at all.
For me no i would not wear a corset everyday but when i wear one for special reason i will lace to 20in for the reason to look out of proportion for me theres no other reason in wearing one- i already have good natural definition and if i want to be thinner il eat less.
cathy jung is a stupid comparison to what looks good on regular people she has the smallest corseted waist its obviously that look that she was going for because i doubt she got that way by accident you know she was dedicated to achieving that extreme look probably much harder work than going to the gym everyday shes obviously not worried of the quite strange look of her insides being pushed out the bottom of it because theres sure not space for many organs in a 15in space.

...And maybe that's the difference between us and our idea of what defines beauty. I think that when a girl appears naturally to have unnatural characteristics (like exotic eyes or lips without makeup, for example), that is the ideal form of beauty. When it is obvious that a person is using something for the "look" and cannot have the look without the unnatural means (like a girl who has plain lips but heaps on gunks of lipstick or plain eyes with heaps of eye makeup), it is less attractive. This is why I think it is a good thing to see that the corset is "not doing much" for the girl on the right, whereas it seems to be the centerpiece of attraction for the girl to the left. I thought that everyone on this board agreed with that, considering that we all decided to take the natural route to grow breasts. I guess I am wrong with making this assumption. I don't understand how my vision of beauty makes me a "gym snob", unless it is your opinion of my methods. (Additional note: Keep in mind that I am not speaking of anyone who is "dressing up to feel good" as we all do fun random things when we go out, NOT on the regular... of course everyone can do anything from time to time. I know I do! Rather, I am talking about a person who tries to make their waist that size on the regular and permanently with the rest of their proportions being out of control. So clearly, Bonita, I am not talking about you as you thought I was and hence your need of defense.)