[Wahaika]

http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=3157&highlight=polysorbate-80

[Wahaika]

The previous post should have this link:
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articl...ility.aspx

[Pansy-Mae]

With respect, I think you are talking nonsense and potentially creating a totally unnecessary scare.

"Polysorbate 80, also known as polyoxyethylene sorbitan monooleate or Tween™ 80, is an amber-colored, viscous liquid with a slightly bitter taste. It is used primarily as an emulsifier in food products, cosmetics, vitamins, medicines, and vaccines. The product is a derivative of sorbitol and oleic acid, and is manufactured worldwide.

Emulsifiers help bind ingredients together and keep them from separating, most commonly with oil and water. It is also a surfactant – a substance which reduces the surface tension of a liquid – which results in an easier, smoother spread. Frequently, it is used in ice cream and frozen desserts to resist melting. Polysorbate 80 is also used as an emulsifier and surfactant in products such as shortening, condiments, chewing gum, dietary foods, and whipped dessert toppings, as well as a host of cosmetic creams and lotions."

"Polysorbate 80 (commercially also known as Tween 80, a registered trademark of ICI Americas, Inc.).....Polysorbate 80 is also used in some eye drops (i.e. ROHTO cool redness reliever/lubricant eye drops)....Polysorbate 80 is used as an emulsifier in the manufacture of medications for parenteral administration, most notably in the popular anti-arrhythmic amiodarone. [6] It is also part of the adjuvant used in some European and Canadian influenza vaccines.[7] It is also used in the culture of Mycobacterium tuberculosis in Middlebrook 7H9 broth.....In Europe and America people eat about 0.1 g of polysorbate 80 in foods per day.[8] Influenza vaccines contain 0.000025 g of polysorbate 80 per dose.[7]

In general, polysorbate 80 is safe and well-tolerated, although a small number of people are allergic to this substance.[9] Rats fed with diets containing up to 5% polysorbate 80 by volume showed no toxic effects.[10] Polysorbate 80 is not carcinogenic.[11] A 1956 study saw no effect on reproduction in rats at up to 5% of their diet being polysorbate 80, although reproduction decreased at 20% of the diet.[12] A 1993 study raised concerns that polysorbate 80 might decrease fertility in rats.[13] A 1997 study looked at the effect of consuming three doses by body weight of 0.5%/day on the sex organs of female rats and saw no abnormal changes; this is equivalent to a 70 kg person consuming about 350 g per day for three days.[14] A 2008 study concluded that there was no observable adverse effects at doses per body weight of up to 1.85 ml/kg·day, which is equivalent to a 70 kg person consuming about 140 g of this substance per day for 21 days. However, administration of 16.783 ml/kg·day to pregnant rats lowered body weight in male and female offspring.[8] This is equivalent to a person consuming about 1.3 kg of polysorbate 80 per day for 21 days."

[Wahaika]

Delayed effects of neonatal exposure to Tween 80 on female reproductive organs in rats.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8473002

Polysorbate 80:C64H124O26 a Detergent, Emulsifier, Solubilizer, Stabilizer
http://www.novaccine.com/vaccine-ingredi....asp?sc=19

Polysorbate 80 In Swine Flu Vaccines = Infertility In Humans
http://organichealthadviser.com/archives...-in-humans

Polysorbate 80 (Tween 80) In Vaccines IS A Sterilization Agent
http://www.measlesintiative.org/76-polys...agent.html

Darbepoetin Alfa (Polysorbate 80)
http://www.drugs.com/cdi/darbepoetin-alf...te-80.html

Polysorbate 80 Causes Infertility
An Emulsifier That Can Damage Your Reproductive Health
http://joanna-karpasea-jones.suite101.co...ity-a60320

Tween 80 (Polysorbate 80) -- Polyoxyethylene Sorbitan Monooleate (polyoxyethylenesorbitan monooleat)
http://www.whale.to/v/tween_80.html

Many vaccines contain polysorbate 80 which can cause anaphylactic shock
http://www.naturalnews.com/033406_vaccin...te_80.html

My position, that Polysorbate 80 (Tween 80) is not proven safe, remains unchanged. There are other emulsifiers that could be used. Companies that use this need to reject it. I have seen two different chemical names, and have discussed a potential third, all called Polysorbate 80. Which one are you referring? Which one is St. Herb referring? I occasionally see foods that have Polysorbate 80 on the label. I avoid them. Feel free to use it if you see fit.

[Alicia]

Wahaika, where did you find out the ingredients of the St. Herb cream? Is there any site listing the components of cosmetic/health products or was it in the label?
I'm also using a cream with PM in it: La Femme Breast & Balance, and the label says nothing about Polysorbate 80, but it has Propylparaben and Methylparaben which I believe can be dangerous too (?)

[Wahaika]

Hello Alicia,

I have not studied any of the parabens. (yet)

Tell you what, I will contact St. Herb and ask them some direct questions and get back to you via this thread. I may contact another company that I was in contact with back when I first posted in this thread.

The FDA has been known to allow very dangerous things on the market. They have also denied some very safe things from entering the market. They are currently trying to regulate natural products, AGAIN, and this bothers me quite a bit. Special thanks to BigDave and tibetan113 for bringing this all back up. The Dietary Supplement Health And Education Act of 1994 helped say these nut cases off somewhat, but here it comes again. Time to go out and sharpen old tools again.

Wahaika