09-07-2012, 08:53 PM
Thank you Brilaw,
For blood circulation, why not try cinnamon?
Wild Yam - 1000 mg: ramp up to 2,000 mg.
Saw Palmetto - 1.2 g: 640 mg of extract, or 3,000 mg of dried berry capsules.
Flaxseed oil - 2000 mg: OK if it's without lignans
Fenugreek extract - 1000 mg: ramp up to 2,000 mg
Ginkgo biloba - 120 − 240mg: those are the doses for memory. I'm not sure about what these doses will do in NBE.
Your phyto-estrogens intake depends on the kind of flax seed oil you use. Some flax seed oils contain lignans, others don't. The main lignan in flax seed is secoisolariciresinol diglycoside (SDG). If you've got the right intestinal bacteria, SDG digests to two other lignans, enterolactone and enterodiol, that are estrogenic. The shoots tell me that you've got the right bacteria and that your dose is somehow right.
My current dose is 3,600 mg broken flax seed. The seeds are 20 % oil, so I get 720 mg oil, with lignans. I'm not stalled, so 720 mg is not too much. Of course I take hops and soy too, so I can't really say 720 mg is enough. If your 2,000 mg is with lignans, it's on the high side, probably close to a stalling dose.
As a total intake of ω−3 fatty acids, my 720 mg is too little, and your 2,000 mg is about right. I have cans of pink salmon for my afternoon snack, to get enough ω−3 fatty acids, even though I know fish oil has a bad track record in NBE. Maybe I should try chia seeds.
Both Ginie and I have experienced growth on flax alone, so as long as you have sensations, why not keep it up for three or four months to see if it becomes growth?
For women who breast fed, wild yam programs work without addition of a phyto-estrogen. OK, you didn't, but since flax also has a reputation of working well on it's own, I think it's worth a try. If you do want to try other phyto-estrogens, it's good to know that getting shoots from flax increases the chance that soy and hops work for you too. Again, take a close look at the doses. 2,000 of each is enough.
For blood circulation, why not try cinnamon?
Wild Yam - 1000 mg: ramp up to 2,000 mg.
Saw Palmetto - 1.2 g: 640 mg of extract, or 3,000 mg of dried berry capsules.
Flaxseed oil - 2000 mg: OK if it's without lignans
Fenugreek extract - 1000 mg: ramp up to 2,000 mg
Ginkgo biloba - 120 − 240mg: those are the doses for memory. I'm not sure about what these doses will do in NBE.
Your phyto-estrogens intake depends on the kind of flax seed oil you use. Some flax seed oils contain lignans, others don't. The main lignan in flax seed is secoisolariciresinol diglycoside (SDG). If you've got the right intestinal bacteria, SDG digests to two other lignans, enterolactone and enterodiol, that are estrogenic. The shoots tell me that you've got the right bacteria and that your dose is somehow right.
My current dose is 3,600 mg broken flax seed. The seeds are 20 % oil, so I get 720 mg oil, with lignans. I'm not stalled, so 720 mg is not too much. Of course I take hops and soy too, so I can't really say 720 mg is enough. If your 2,000 mg is with lignans, it's on the high side, probably close to a stalling dose.
As a total intake of ω−3 fatty acids, my 720 mg is too little, and your 2,000 mg is about right. I have cans of pink salmon for my afternoon snack, to get enough ω−3 fatty acids, even though I know fish oil has a bad track record in NBE. Maybe I should try chia seeds.
Both Ginie and I have experienced growth on flax alone, so as long as you have sensations, why not keep it up for three or four months to see if it becomes growth?
For women who breast fed, wild yam programs work without addition of a phyto-estrogen. OK, you didn't, but since flax also has a reputation of working well on it's own, I think it's worth a try. If you do want to try other phyto-estrogens, it's good to know that getting shoots from flax increases the chance that soy and hops work for you too. Again, take a close look at the doses. 2,000 of each is enough.