07-11-2011, 05:13 PM
Hi Susan,
You have to build up dose. If you take too much maca early on, you will get symptoms of too high DHT and too much estrogens. Start low. If you get symptoms of DHT (break outs, high libido, chin hair), decrease maca. If you get symptoms of estrogen dominance, increase fenugreek, or decrease maca. I keep hops at 2,500 mg, and adjust maca and fenugreek for the balances.
I take all my fenugreek in one go at noon. Because it has a strong effect on blood sugar, you may be right that it's better to spread it out. I just take advantage by having my carbs at the same time as fenugreek.
You also may be right to take goat's rue first then later in the day add the fenugreek. First improve sensitivity to insulin, then bring on the insulin. Makes sense.
I like the idea of rotating EFAs. The reason I use 30 g of flax seed now is I really want to know if it's good or bad. The cons of flax are the increase in SHBG and the inhibition of aromatase. More SHBG from flax and soy binds more free testosterone. You are right, that will decrease androgens. But the downside is that aromatase can only convert free testosterone to estrogens. I prefer to have some free testosterone, and enough anti-androgen to block 5α-reductase, so the free testosterone cannot become DHT.
It's a good thing you have seaweed sheets and powdered L-tyrosine. You are well equipped to feel when your thyroid is slow. The symptoms, looking from the outside, are the same as ADD. But ADD feels more like scattered thinking inside your brain, while a slow thyroid makes it difficult to focus attention because of lack of energy. Feels more like you need the coffee to wake up, than to gather your thoughts. I don't know if those are the right words to describe it, but it's how I'm trying to understand my younger daughter.
I don't know how to make an instant warming oil. But cayenne pepper improves blood circulation. Great for arthritis too. The fish oil soaks into the upper layer of your skin. It insulates. It also makes your skin all shiny and water repellant. I used to be out all night in winter wearing only a skimpy drag outfit, all on 4,000 mg fish oil.
My breasts are evening out in size too, from growth. But I'm sure pumping is the way to fix uneven development fast. Looking forward to the new pics
So you take
one maca first thing in the morning,
then take FG
and drink FN a little after
then midday take the rest of the maca,
then when you get the other herbs take GR inbetween
and hops just before bed,
take some tumeric just before bed to feel good the next day.
You are right, you should experiment with what you have now and when the other herbs come add slowly. I really needed to experiment to get good energy all day. Still wondering if fenugreek at 3 pm would be better then at noon, just to prevent cravings.
Hops would counteract chin hair, yes. Especially undigested, as in tea 15 minutes before a meal, or two hours after. Saw Palmetto is not the only one other than hops that would help. There are different anti-androgens, like xanthohumol in hops, β-sitosterol in PM, secoisolariciresinol diglycoside in flax, azelaic acid in barley grass, zinc, vitamin B6. It could take a while to try them all out.
I'm trying to take fenugreek at a time that moves the craving to the time of the next meal. Still experimenting. I'm also testing flax, and will be testing soy later, because hops alone may be too little phyto-estrogen.
You have to build up dose. If you take too much maca early on, you will get symptoms of too high DHT and too much estrogens. Start low. If you get symptoms of DHT (break outs, high libido, chin hair), decrease maca. If you get symptoms of estrogen dominance, increase fenugreek, or decrease maca. I keep hops at 2,500 mg, and adjust maca and fenugreek for the balances.
I take all my fenugreek in one go at noon. Because it has a strong effect on blood sugar, you may be right that it's better to spread it out. I just take advantage by having my carbs at the same time as fenugreek.
You also may be right to take goat's rue first then later in the day add the fenugreek. First improve sensitivity to insulin, then bring on the insulin. Makes sense.
I like the idea of rotating EFAs. The reason I use 30 g of flax seed now is I really want to know if it's good or bad. The cons of flax are the increase in SHBG and the inhibition of aromatase. More SHBG from flax and soy binds more free testosterone. You are right, that will decrease androgens. But the downside is that aromatase can only convert free testosterone to estrogens. I prefer to have some free testosterone, and enough anti-androgen to block 5α-reductase, so the free testosterone cannot become DHT.
It's a good thing you have seaweed sheets and powdered L-tyrosine. You are well equipped to feel when your thyroid is slow. The symptoms, looking from the outside, are the same as ADD. But ADD feels more like scattered thinking inside your brain, while a slow thyroid makes it difficult to focus attention because of lack of energy. Feels more like you need the coffee to wake up, than to gather your thoughts. I don't know if those are the right words to describe it, but it's how I'm trying to understand my younger daughter.
I don't know how to make an instant warming oil. But cayenne pepper improves blood circulation. Great for arthritis too. The fish oil soaks into the upper layer of your skin. It insulates. It also makes your skin all shiny and water repellant. I used to be out all night in winter wearing only a skimpy drag outfit, all on 4,000 mg fish oil.
My breasts are evening out in size too, from growth. But I'm sure pumping is the way to fix uneven development fast. Looking forward to the new pics
So you take
one maca first thing in the morning,
then take FG
and drink FN a little after
then midday take the rest of the maca,
then when you get the other herbs take GR inbetween
and hops just before bed,
take some tumeric just before bed to feel good the next day.
You are right, you should experiment with what you have now and when the other herbs come add slowly. I really needed to experiment to get good energy all day. Still wondering if fenugreek at 3 pm would be better then at noon, just to prevent cravings.
Hops would counteract chin hair, yes. Especially undigested, as in tea 15 minutes before a meal, or two hours after. Saw Palmetto is not the only one other than hops that would help. There are different anti-androgens, like xanthohumol in hops, β-sitosterol in PM, secoisolariciresinol diglycoside in flax, azelaic acid in barley grass, zinc, vitamin B6. It could take a while to try them all out.
I'm trying to take fenugreek at a time that moves the craving to the time of the next meal. Still experimenting. I'm also testing flax, and will be testing soy later, because hops alone may be too little phyto-estrogen.