26-07-2011, 03:39 PM
(25-07-2011, 09:04 PM)Isabelle Wrote: For maca with pm, you can just follow Susan's experience:
http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=9021
Ginie did a good job analysing Chiyomilk's program. Stop taking PM two days before you ovulate. If you take a phyto-estrogen during ovulation, make sure it's a weak one. Otherwise, you'll postpone ovulation, and lengthen your cycle.
Estrogen is naturally lowest between days 25 and 5. I think it's important to take a weak phyto-estrogen during those days too: you want progesterone to be higher than the estrogens at least between days 18 and 26, otherwise you'll end up with teenage breasts. I notice many PM users start well before day 5, which I assume is OK if growth is more important to you than shape.
Suppose you ovulate on day 14 (better check for yourself: thermometer, pen, and paper on your bedside cabinet). Then what can you do between day 15 and 24, when estrogen levels are not as low as between day 25 and 5? I suppose this is the time to try a phyto-estrogen of which you think it will be stronger than Chiyomilk's weak phyto-estrogen formula. I don't know how strong Aguaje is.
I may be alone in this, but I believe Chiyomilk's success is in stretching estrogen levels all the time, while respecting the natural cycle. In other words, use a strong PE when estrogen peaks in your cycle, and a weak one when natural estrogen slumps. Check Wahaika's drawing:
http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=67
Hey Isabelle
I know I'm a pain in the arse....but I'm having a really hard time understanding your explanation. If I'm reading correctly, I have been doing this whole pm thing wrong.
I am taking PM on day 1-13, as day 14 is ovulation day. Then days 14-27 I have been taking FG, Hops. If you want progesterone to be higher between days 18-26 shouldn't I not be taking FG, and Hops on those days? I read somewhere that a lady didn't take any other herb, just Wild Yam cream days 15-27, and grew 2 cup sizes. So what would I do? If you could just give me a graph of what I should be taking what days, I would truly be grateful. Thanks.