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i went to the doctor(s) because i didn't get my period for 6 months. this was before i started PM. i was on BO when this happened. at the time, my results were low thyroids, slightly elevated testosterone, high prolactin. you would think with high prolactin, my boobs would be larger. but no such luck.

i forgot if i started taking PM before my thyroids medicine, or the other way around. but judging from my photos, this was around the time i started to show some growth. this was already 9 months into NBE for me. (that's 9 months of noogling with 0 growth )

at first i thought i wasn't getting any results from PM because when i compared month to month photos, they look almost the same. but given 3 months time, you can see a visible difference.

i didn't feel anything good or bad from the brands that i deemed ineffective for me. i stuck with st. herb capsules for the most part because i saw results, albeit slow. it wasn't until siriporn capsule + st herb capsule + robust that i started to feel more sensations.

because i generally didn't get any responses from PM, i ramped it up by a lot to see what would happen. when i started, i stuck to their recommended dosage. st herb is 4 capsules a day, siriporn is 2 a day. i've tried all sorts of combinations: 6 st. herb a day, 4 siriporn a day etc. at the highest level, i went a month taking 2 siriporn + 6 st. herb a day!!! i didn't experience any crazy symptoms, no major growth spurt, no difference in the lack of breast sensation.

currently i'm taking 2 siriporn + 2 st. herb a day. i don't advocate taking an insanely high amount of PM. but i do think that hard gainers need more than the recommended dosage. for some people, PM cream alone is enough to mess up their cycle. i on the other hand, can be swimming in a pool of PM cream and it probably wouldn't make any difference.

i do get estrogen dominant symptoms once in a while, but very rare. when i was taking TONS of PM, i don't remember getting any of the symptoms. so i don't know how reliable my "symptoms" are... it could just be that i was tired that day.

i no longer compare month to month photos as that can be very discouraging for slow gainers like me. but when i see the photos of when i started, and me 6 months ago, to now, there is no doubt a HUGE difference. so i guess as you're experimenting with new methods, and you're a slow gainer, give it a few months and take photos.

good luck! sorry i don't have definite answers to anything. all i can really say is what worked for me and what didn't.