[dreamergirl]

Recently after upgrading my bra size, I have sat down and thought about my journey.

I realised I was extremely, suicidally unhappy with my breasts and set out on this journey just over 2 years ago. At the time I was wearing a 32B bra and probably not even filling it out 100%. As of recently, I started wearing a 32D bra and I fill it out comfortably.

B to D sounds like a huge difference, but I don't feel like I've changed at all. I'm mid 20s and I feel permanently stuck in my teenage body.

A friend suggested I have BDD and maybe that's why I can't acknowledge that I've changed. But I still struggle to make cleavage, and I still feel flat chested compared to other women I look at.

32D is not what my dreams would have made it out to be. I want to be at least 5x bigger than this, at the very least I need NATURAL cleavage before I can be happy. To make cleavage with my breasts takes a lot of force and pushup bras, and I think it looks silly and forced. I do have breasts that lean towards the outside which makes it harder.

I'm sure someone might ask about my routine.

I have never taken the herbs or medicinal routes suggested here because mostly they are hard to find and I can't order online.

My routine is daily breast massages based on techniques I learnt in videos, eating with intent to add weight to my breasts (I am naturally skinny and it is hard for me to gain weight so I focus on calorie intake), and until recently I was also drinking a carton of soy milk a day.

I would say that my progress does not feel visible to me at all, I only know that it's there because I can look at my bra size.

Does anyone else have a similar experience?

I hope that I can continue growing until I finally notice the difference.

[Happyme]

WOW B to D is a wonderful achievement!

You should be quite proud!

Since your gaining a bit of fat, you can try Noogleberry or one of the suction devices.

You seem to have a good head on your shoulders and have patience, BOTH of those are required to use Noogleberry and not hurt yourself.

Also try massage with a progesterone cream every other day. The cream works towards a roundness. and if you can take the smell Fenugreek massage works well too.

Dont disappear from here, There is a lot of help available, but Corona seems to have slowed down the chatter. Answers take a while to get answered.

Huggs

Bobbi

[dreamergirl]

WOW B to D is a wonderful achievement!

You should be quite proud!

Since your gaining a bit of fat, you can try Noogleberry or one of the suction devices.

You seem to have a good head on your shoulders and have patience, BOTH of those are required to use Noogleberry and not hurt yourself.

Also try massage with a progesterone cream every other day. The cream works towards a roundness. and if you can take the smell Fenugreek massage works well too.

Dont disappear from here, There is a lot of help available, but Corona seems to have slowed down the chatter. Answers take a while to get answered.

Huggs

Bobbi

Thanks for the supportive words. I do try to appreciate my progress, which is part of why I posted this. I don't want to be so negative about it all of the time that I forget that it DOES work if I keep trying I can achieve more.

Unfortunately as I mentioned in my post I am limited to items I can pick up without ordering online. I'm having a really hard time finding things like those you mentioned unfortunately, otherwise I definitely would have tried them. If I get the chance I will!

[dreamergirl]

Update on acknowledging my progress: Been more strict on my routine lately, strict breast massage routine and making sure to consume more calories including breast growth stimulating foods. Hard to notice my progress but I definitely do feel like they are rounder, heavier and the shape has changed. Since they are bigger the nipple position seems to have changed so it isn't completely central to the breast, and from the side it seems more round and bigger. There's a bit more fat in the middle since I can make a slightly better cleavage with force.

I am completely obsessed and consumed by growing my breasts at this point, driven by my own self loathing. I am determined to see results.

[koyasha]

Update on acknowledging my progress: Been more strict on my routine lately, strict breast massage routine and making sure to consume more calories including breast growth stimulating foods. Hard to notice my progress but I definitely do feel like they are rounder, heavier and the shape has changed. Since they are bigger the nipple position seems to have changed so it isn't completely central to the breast, and from the side it seems more round and bigger. There's a bit more fat in the middle since I can make a slightly better cleavage with force.

I am completely obsessed and consumed by growing my breasts at this point, driven by my own self loathing. I am determined to see results.

I can relate to your last sentence about the self loathing. 
You said you can't order anything online. Can you send money via paypal? I could order you a Kangzhu pumping set online (cheap version of Noogleberry, I am very happy with mine) and send it your way?

Very motivating for me to read that nipple position can change, I hope you are happy with the change? Congrats on being able to make more cleavage and on your breasts becoming rounder, fuller and heavier!!

[dreamergirl]

Update on acknowledging my progress: Been more strict on my routine lately, strict breast massage routine and making sure to consume more calories including breast growth stimulating foods. Hard to notice my progress but I definitely do feel like they are rounder, heavier and the shape has changed. Since they are bigger the nipple position seems to have changed so it isn't completely central to the breast, and from the side it seems more round and bigger. There's a bit more fat in the middle since I can make a slightly better cleavage with force.

I am completely obsessed and consumed by growing my breasts at this point, driven by my own self loathing. I am determined to see results.

I can relate to your last sentence about the self loathing. 
You said you can't order anything online. Can you send money via paypal? I could order you a Kangzhu pumping set online (cheap version of Noogleberry, I am very happy with mine) and send it your way?

Very motivating for me to read that nipple position can change, I hope you are happy with the change? Congrats on being able to make more cleavage and on your breasts becoming rounder, fuller and heavier!!

I'm very touched by your offer, thank you. I did not ever expect that someone on this site would offer to help me out like that. Unfortunately due to my living situation I'm not able to do online purchases or transfers.

My personal suspicion about the nipple placement is that it will "move" depending on where the fat grows, or if the weight of the breast increases. If you gain more lower breast fat it may appear to move up, but in my case due to the weight dragging it down it appears lower. I'm happy with it.

It's a struggle still to notice changes due to the high chance that I am suffering from BDD but I'm happy with the progress I have made so far and hope to keep growing.

[koyasha]

Update on acknowledging my progress: Been more strict on my routine lately, strict breast massage routine and making sure to consume more calories including breast growth stimulating foods. Hard to notice my progress but I definitely do feel like they are rounder, heavier and the shape has changed. Since they are bigger the nipple position seems to have changed so it isn't completely central to the breast, and from the side it seems more round and bigger. There's a bit more fat in the middle since I can make a slightly better cleavage with force.

I am completely obsessed and consumed by growing my breasts at this point, driven by my own self loathing. I am determined to see results.

I can relate to your last sentence about the self loathing. 
You said you can't order anything online. Can you send money via paypal? I could order you a Kangzhu pumping set online (cheap version of Noogleberry, I am very happy with mine) and send it your way?

Very motivating for me to read that nipple position can change, I hope you are happy with the change? Congrats on being able to make more cleavage and on your breasts becoming rounder, fuller and heavier!!

I'm very touched by your offer, thank you. I did not ever expect that someone on this site would offer to help me out like that. Unfortunately due to my living situation I'm not able to do online purchases or transfers.

My personal suspicion about the nipple placement is that it will "move" depending on where the fat grows, or if the weight of the breast increases. If you gain more lower breast fat it may appear to move up, but in my case due to the weight dragging it down it appears lower. I'm happy with it.

It's a struggle still to notice changes due to the high chance that I am suffering from BDD but I'm happy with the progress I have made so far and hope to keep growing.

I would have loved to help you out! I know what it's like to want or to be desperate to change the size or shape of your breasts. I don't know what your situation is like, but if there is anything I can do to help, just let me know :-) 

I see. My nipple points outward when I am laying on my side. When laying on my left side, my right nipple points up because the fat from my breast moves to the inside. I'm not happy about that. There is a gap between my breasts, so I am wondering that if I gained more breast fat on the inner side, this wouldn't be happening anymore.

Glad you are happy about your nipple appearing lower and about the overall progress you have made even though it is hard for you to notice changes. 
Are you taking pictures of yourself for comparison?

[dreamergirl]

Update on acknowledging my progress: Been more strict on my routine lately, strict breast massage routine and making sure to consume more calories including breast growth stimulating foods. Hard to notice my progress but I definitely do feel like they are rounder, heavier and the shape has changed. Since they are bigger the nipple position seems to have changed so it isn't completely central to the breast, and from the side it seems more round and bigger. There's a bit more fat in the middle since I can make a slightly better cleavage with force.

I am completely obsessed and consumed by growing my breasts at this point, driven by my own self loathing. I am determined to see results.

I can relate to your last sentence about the self loathing. 
You said you can't order anything online. Can you send money via paypal? I could order you a Kangzhu pumping set online (cheap version of Noogleberry, I am very happy with mine) and send it your way?

Very motivating for me to read that nipple position can change, I hope you are happy with the change? Congrats on being able to make more cleavage and on your breasts becoming rounder, fuller and heavier!!

I'm very touched by your offer, thank you. I did not ever expect that someone on this site would offer to help me out like that. Unfortunately due to my living situation I'm not able to do online purchases or transfers.

My personal suspicion about the nipple placement is that it will "move" depending on where the fat grows, or if the weight of the breast increases. If you gain more lower breast fat it may appear to move up, but in my case due to the weight dragging it down it appears lower. I'm happy with it.

It's a struggle still to notice changes due to the high chance that I am suffering from BDD but I'm happy with the progress I have made so far and hope to keep growing.

I would have loved to help you out! I know what it's like to want or to be desperate to change the size or shape of your breasts. I don't know what your situation is like, but if there is anything I can do to help, just let me know :-) 

I see. My nipple points outward when I am laying on my side. When laying on my left side, my right nipple points up because the fat from my breast moves to the inside. I'm not happy about that. There is a gap between my breasts, so I am wondering that if I gained more breast fat on the inner side, this wouldn't be happening anymore.

Glad you are happy about your nipple appearing lower and about the overall progress you have made even though it is hard for you to notice changes. 
Are you taking pictures of yourself for comparison?

I also have a gap between my breasts and it's something that I am working on changing. Although right now the fat refuses to grow there, it all seems to grow outwards towards my armpit area.

Unfortunately I cannot take pictures due to how they make me feel. I know a few people here have told me to take them but I can't. And I know that the visual appearance does not necessarily equal the growth.

I am instead feeling them regularly, keeping track of the volume and how it feels in my hand, measuring and taking my cup size which has grown.

[koyasha]

Update on acknowledging my progress: Been more strict on my routine lately, strict breast massage routine and making sure to consume more calories including breast growth stimulating foods. Hard to notice my progress but I definitely do feel like they are rounder, heavier and the shape has changed. Since they are bigger the nipple position seems to have changed so it isn't completely central to the breast, and from the side it seems more round and bigger. There's a bit more fat in the middle since I can make a slightly better cleavage with force.

I am completely obsessed and consumed by growing my breasts at this point, driven by my own self loathing. I am determined to see results.

I can relate to your last sentence about the self loathing. 
You said you can't order anything online. Can you send money via paypal? I could order you a Kangzhu pumping set online (cheap version of Noogleberry, I am very happy with mine) and send it your way?

Very motivating for me to read that nipple position can change, I hope you are happy with the change? Congrats on being able to make more cleavage and on your breasts becoming rounder, fuller and heavier!!

I'm very touched by your offer, thank you. I did not ever expect that someone on this site would offer to help me out like that. Unfortunately due to my living situation I'm not able to do online purchases or transfers.

My personal suspicion about the nipple placement is that it will "move" depending on where the fat grows, or if the weight of the breast increases. If you gain more lower breast fat it may appear to move up, but in my case due to the weight dragging it down it appears lower. I'm happy with it.

It's a struggle still to notice changes due to the high chance that I am suffering from BDD but I'm happy with the progress I have made so far and hope to keep growing.

I would have loved to help you out! I know what it's like to want or to be desperate to change the size or shape of your breasts. I don't know what your situation is like, but if there is anything I can do to help, just let me know :-) 

I see. My nipple points outward when I am laying on my side. When laying on my left side, my right nipple points up because the fat from my breast moves to the inside. I'm not happy about that. There is a gap between my breasts, so I am wondering that if I gained more breast fat on the inner side, this wouldn't be happening anymore.

Glad you are happy about your nipple appearing lower and about the overall progress you have made even though it is hard for you to notice changes. 
Are you taking pictures of yourself for comparison?

I also have a gap between my breasts and it's something that I am working on changing. Although right now the fat refuses to grow there, it all seems to grow outwards towards my armpit area.

Unfortunately I cannot take pictures due to how they make me feel. I know a few people here have told me to take them but I can't. And I know that the visual appearance does not necessarily equal the growth.

I am instead feeling them regularly, keeping track of the volume and how it feels in my hand, measuring and taking my cup size which has grown.

I really hope that the fat will eventually grow between your breasts. I am actually trying to 'move' the fat there instead of growing it. I have small Kangzhu cups and will lay on my side and then try to pull the fat there by pumping and then leave the cups on. I just recently started doing this so I have no idea if this is going to work. 

I understand. If taking pictures makes you feel bad, then maybe it is better not to take or at least not to keep them, and by not keeping them you won't have a way of comparing, so why take them in the first place. I get that seeing yourself in a picture can make you feel worse about yourself. I feel the same way, but I am not a fan of measurements since I find it hard to measure at the exact same place every time or maybe the tape is tighter one time, I am always confused. And I am hoping that some day I will be able to look back and be glad that I don't look like this anymore.
As long as you have found a way for yourself to track your progress, then it's all good :-)

[dreamergirl]

I can relate to your last sentence about the self loathing. 
You said you can't order anything online. Can you send money via paypal? I could order you a Kangzhu pumping set online (cheap version of Noogleberry, I am very happy with mine) and send it your way?

Very motivating for me to read that nipple position can change, I hope you are happy with the change? Congrats on being able to make more cleavage and on your breasts becoming rounder, fuller and heavier!!

I'm very touched by your offer, thank you. I did not ever expect that someone on this site would offer to help me out like that. Unfortunately due to my living situation I'm not able to do online purchases or transfers.

My personal suspicion about the nipple placement is that it will "move" depending on where the fat grows, or if the weight of the breast increases. If you gain more lower breast fat it may appear to move up, but in my case due to the weight dragging it down it appears lower. I'm happy with it.

It's a struggle still to notice changes due to the high chance that I am suffering from BDD but I'm happy with the progress I have made so far and hope to keep growing.

I would have loved to help you out! I know what it's like to want or to be desperate to change the size or shape of your breasts. I don't know what your situation is like, but if there is anything I can do to help, just let me know :-) 

I see. My nipple points outward when I am laying on my side. When laying on my left side, my right nipple points up because the fat from my breast moves to the inside. I'm not happy about that. There is a gap between my breasts, so I am wondering that if I gained more breast fat on the inner side, this wouldn't be happening anymore.

Glad you are happy about your nipple appearing lower and about the overall progress you have made even though it is hard for you to notice changes. 
Are you taking pictures of yourself for comparison?

I also have a gap between my breasts and it's something that I am working on changing. Although right now the fat refuses to grow there, it all seems to grow outwards towards my armpit area.

Unfortunately I cannot take pictures due to how they make me feel. I know a few people here have told me to take them but I can't. And I know that the visual appearance does not necessarily equal the growth.

I am instead feeling them regularly, keeping track of the volume and how it feels in my hand, measuring and taking my cup size which has grown.

I really hope that the fat will eventually grow between your breasts. I am actually trying to 'move' the fat there instead of growing it. I have small Kangzhu cups and will lay on my side and then try to pull the fat there by pumping and then leave the cups on. I just recently started doing this so I have no idea if this is going to work. 

I understand. If taking pictures makes you feel bad, then maybe it is better not to take or at least not to keep them, and by not keeping them you won't have a way of comparing, so why take them in the first place. I get that seeing yourself in a picture can make you feel worse about yourself. I feel the same way, but I am not a fan of measurements since I find it hard to measure at the exact same place every time or maybe the tape is tighter one time, I am always confused. And I am hoping that some day I will be able to look back and be glad that I don't look like this anymore.
As long as you have found a way for yourself to track your progress, then it's all good :-)

That is true. Sometimes I wish I had a picture of the very start so I could compare. Back when I started I couldn't make my breasts touch eachother in the middle except maybe with extreme force, so I know things were very different. I can get a reasonable cleavage with a good pushup bra now but it feels very shallow since the breasts are still small and being forced together. My goal is to have a full and natural cleavage.

I'm hoping to look back and see a big difference even in my clothed pictures!

And good luck with moving the fat towards the middle it's a very good idea!