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Acne and Herbal NBE - I think I found the solution for me
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After lots and lots of searching about the causes of hormonal acne, I found an article that made a lot of sense to me and I used this really pretty simple formula to start reversing my hormonal breakouts. I'm not gonna say that my skin is 100% clear but it's much much better. The article pretty claims that hormonal acne is caused by

1. high ratio of estrogen: progesterone (i.e. too much estrogen with not enough progesterone to balance it out)
2. combined with high DHT

What happened to me was that I usually have very clear skin but I got one of the worst breakouts of my life all of the sudden. I'm talking 12 pimples (and some of them cysts!) popping up in a couple of days from a base of basically clear skin. And breaking out on my back as well. This was during the follicular phase so I wasn't taking using any progesterone cream but was taking quite a bit of Shatavari (~1500mg) and a little bit (>100mg) of PM. So it seems like I had a high Estrogen: Progesterone ratio just like the article claimed.

So I starting using some progesterone cream, even though it wasn't my luteal phase yet and I also stopped the PM and doubled the amount of saw palmetto that I was taking (for anti- DHT effect from 340 to 680mg) and the new pimples stopped coming almost immediately. This was about 3 weeks ago and my skin has remained relatively calm. The PM is just too much estrogen for me without taking progesterone every day, I think. And since I want to cycle the progesterone, I just don't think my body can handle that as estrogen as what PM has. I have kept the amount of saw palmetto that I'm taking high, and so far I haven't had another terrible break out like this even though I'm on my follicular phase again and so taking quite a lot of Shatavari and no progesterone. 

This is really important information I think because for all the ladies out there saying that they are having bad acne from NBE, I think this means you already have enough estrogen and possibly a bit high DHT as well. Don't add in any more E without some P and think about more anti-DHT. Hope this is helpful to some!
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Hi Karma melon,

Thank you for the useful information!! I’ve struggeled with this problem myself. I’ve been doing NBE for around 3,5 months now for the first time in my life, following missmadscientists program (flax seed + full fat toasted soy + full fat milk). But everytime I get a lot of hormonal acne and tender and swelled breasts in my luthal phase... Before NBE I never had both of these symptoms. I was wondering if you also get tender and swelled breasts? If so, in which phase?
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Hi Karma melon,

Thank you for the useful information!! I’ve struggeled with this problem myself. I’ve been doing NBE for around 3,5 months now for the first time in my life, following missmadscientists program (flax seed + full fat toasted soy + full fat milk). But everytime I get a lot of hormonal acne and tender and swelled breasts in my luthal phase... Before NBE I never had both of these symptoms. I was wondering if you also get tender and swelled breasts? If so, in which phase?
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(19-12-2018, 05:13 PM)Polly Wrote: Hi Karma melon,

Thank you for the useful information!! I’ve struggeled with this problem myself. I’ve been doing NBE for around 3,5 months now for the first time in my life, following missmadscientists program (flax seed + full fat toasted soy + full fat milk). But everytime I get a lot of hormonal acne and tender and swelled breasts in my luthal phase... Before NBE I never had both of these symptoms. I was wondering if you also get tender and swelled breasts? If so, in which phase?


Hi Polly! Glad that info was helpful to you. Yes, I have been getting some swelling in my breasts in the luteal phase but not much soreness. I've heard from several people that swelling in the luteal phase is very normal for NBE and nothing to be worried about...sadly that swelling doesn't always stick around as real growth! Best of luck!
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Hi Melon,

Congrats on finding the right herb for your hormone acne issue! Do you experience growth with this pc plus sp combo? I’m interested in trying this out myself. Thanks!
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