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Nerve damage from pumping

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(17-10-2018, 05:26 PM)Jenniferlove Wrote:  [quote pid='203141' dateline='1539741671']
I am not disputing that you have some symptoms, however our system is not the cause. Your goal was to go from a 34A/small B to 34DD/E. Can i suggest to you that maybe your goals were too high in terms of what you body could accommodate and what our system could achieve. We would never suggest that an increase of this size is achievable or even safe and realistic. We have an extremely good relationship with 100’s of our customers who contact me for support and advice regularly and i can honestly say categorically that what you have described has not been reported to me or any of the surgeons who i work with. Even if we made it compulsory for users to buy the gauged hand pump, this would not stop users pumping beyond what is considered a safe and comfortable level. 

best wishes
Lucy


How dare you say your system is not the cause, and shame me in the process!  Although you then go on to say in the rest of your paragraph that maybe I went too hard which implies it was your system so which one is it Lucy?  You seem to out yourself by acknowledging that. Most importantly, you are not a doctor so you cannot tell me what caused the damage. You are a businesswoman protecting your assets. It is obvious that a suction device like this can cause very serious damage. When I have more time I will start pulling up all the threads on this forum that discuss pumping too hard and the damage people have received from doing so. 

 There are hundreds if not thousands of girls on this forum alone complaining about broken capillaries and purple breasts not going back to normal immediately after pumping. That happened to me the first time I pumped and it completely freaked me out!  It took a couple days for the superficial capillaries to heal. Now imagine doing that for four years regularly. Larger veins are being suctioned as well and becoming exhausted from the constant pulling.  This suction is pulling on the most important veins right next to our neck and heart. You don’t think real damage will accumulate?

This is business 101 mind you that she's doing.  Deny, deny, deny and wrongdoing of your company until proven guilty.  THEN, focus on damage control. One of my doctors is beginning to think I have vascular neuropothy which IS caused by a damaged vessel.  We are getting closer to figuring this out.
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 I have stayed quiet for long enough but felt you had crossed the line in terms of what is an acceptable forum based discussion and what is bordering on slander and scaremongering. I have every right to reply to these posts and in fact i am in a no win situation. I was called a coward and a shark when i remained silent out of respect for you and then when i make a reply, i am damned. I simply cannot win, so i may as well reply again anyway. 

Experiencing side effects from pumping is normal and i have never denied that. Our forum has photos and posts from users who have reddening and bruising etc and this can happen especially when users first start pumping. We give advice about this in our instructions. These are temporary. You have previously said that perhaps you did over pump and i am surprised that you continued using the system for 4 years especially if it was pulling in the veins of your neck. We would never give such advice and in fact our advice is always to stop pumping if significant discomfort and reddening is caused. 

I am glad that your doctor may have arrived at a diagnosis. Vascular neuropathy can be caused by a whole range of reasons such as blood disorders, medications, herbal medicines, smoking , alcohol , diabetes, life style etc. Using the system on the breasts will not cause systemic vascular neuropathy. I feel its important for you that you find the underlying reason so this can be treated. I respectfully ask that until you have a definitive diagnosis and cause, you refrain from making further accusations directed at me. Obviously if you want my support and help, then i am always contactable.
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Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 11-09-2018, 05:01 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by EllaC - 11-09-2018, 06:15 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by EllaC - 11-09-2018, 06:32 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 11-09-2018, 08:18 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by EllaC - 11-09-2018, 08:34 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 11-09-2018, 08:40 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by EllaC - 11-09-2018, 08:49 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 11-09-2018, 08:52 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by EllaC - 11-09-2018, 09:28 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by James98 - 11-09-2018, 08:34 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by hannah - 11-09-2018, 01:43 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 11-09-2018, 08:15 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Happyme - 11-09-2018, 02:22 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 11-09-2018, 08:22 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Pheromonal - 16-11-2019, 03:00 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by hannah - 11-09-2018, 08:27 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 11-09-2018, 08:32 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by hannah - 11-09-2018, 08:37 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 11-09-2018, 08:43 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by hannah - 11-09-2018, 08:57 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 11-09-2018, 09:08 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 11-09-2018, 08:54 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 11-09-2018, 08:58 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by hannah - 11-09-2018, 09:09 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 11-09-2018, 09:29 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by hannah - 11-09-2018, 10:50 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 11-09-2018, 09:40 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by RaineMail - 14-07-2019, 05:51 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by EllaC - 11-09-2018, 11:28 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 12-09-2018, 04:26 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by bosekk - 12-09-2018, 05:09 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 12-09-2018, 04:35 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by EllaC - 12-09-2018, 06:35 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by EllaC - 12-09-2018, 06:37 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by sweetorange - 12-09-2018, 02:22 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by hakuna mytatas - 12-09-2018, 06:30 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by sweetorange - 12-09-2018, 07:14 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Dark_Swan - 12-09-2018, 09:43 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 13-10-2018, 12:54 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Mindy - 13-10-2018, 01:47 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 13-10-2018, 05:50 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Mindy - 15-10-2018, 12:06 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 15-10-2018, 04:38 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by StarSister - 13-10-2018, 07:14 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by EllaC - 13-10-2018, 07:29 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 14-10-2018, 06:37 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by James98 - 14-10-2018, 06:57 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 14-10-2018, 08:24 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by James98 - 14-10-2018, 10:03 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 14-10-2018, 04:15 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by EllaC - 15-10-2018, 01:16 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 15-10-2018, 02:07 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by StarSister - 15-10-2018, 04:57 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by hannah - 15-10-2018, 12:15 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by hannah - 15-10-2018, 12:17 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 15-10-2018, 04:40 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by hannah - 15-10-2018, 04:56 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by hannah - 15-10-2018, 05:00 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 15-10-2018, 05:27 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by hannah - 15-10-2018, 05:55 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 15-10-2018, 06:13 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by hannah - 15-10-2018, 04:56 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Lucynoogle - 16-10-2018, 10:14 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by hannah - 16-10-2018, 10:51 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Fruitcake - 16-10-2018, 12:01 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 16-10-2018, 03:14 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Lucynoogle - 17-10-2018, 12:23 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 17-10-2018, 03:01 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Lucynoogle - 17-10-2018, 11:35 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 17-10-2018, 05:26 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Lucynoogle - 17-10-2018, 07:47 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 17-10-2018, 08:02 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Lucynoogle - 17-10-2018, 09:51 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Dark_Swan - 19-10-2018, 05:17 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by sweetorange - 19-10-2018, 11:38 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Happyme - 16-10-2018, 01:42 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Mindy - 16-10-2018, 05:00 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 16-10-2018, 05:05 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by bosekk - 16-10-2018, 07:48 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 16-10-2018, 07:59 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 16-10-2018, 08:02 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by bosekk - 16-10-2018, 08:10 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Lucynoogle - 17-10-2018, 12:09 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by EllaC - 16-10-2018, 10:56 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Lucynoogle - 17-10-2018, 12:10 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 17-10-2018, 08:31 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Lucynoogle - 17-10-2018, 10:28 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by solome - 17-10-2018, 10:33 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 18-10-2018, 12:01 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 18-10-2018, 12:19 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Lucynoogle - 18-10-2018, 01:04 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 18-10-2018, 01:24 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Dark_Swan - 18-10-2018, 01:33 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 18-10-2018, 01:42 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Dark_Swan - 18-10-2018, 05:05 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 18-10-2018, 05:32 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by hannah - 18-10-2018, 01:34 PM
RE: Nerve damage from p - by hannah - 18-10-2018, 01:40 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 18-10-2018, 03:04 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by sweetorange - 18-10-2018, 11:01 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 19-10-2018, 01:13 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Dark_Swan - 19-10-2018, 01:42 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by hannah - 19-10-2018, 04:06 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by EllaC - 19-10-2018, 06:43 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 19-10-2018, 07:28 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by EllaC - 19-10-2018, 09:46 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by hannah - 19-10-2018, 10:30 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Dark_Swan - 19-10-2018, 08:45 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 19-10-2018, 09:47 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by hannah - 19-10-2018, 10:17 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by EllaC - 19-10-2018, 06:52 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 19-10-2018, 07:41 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by EllaC - 19-10-2018, 09:47 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by hannah - 19-10-2018, 10:25 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by AliciaFrance - 19-10-2018, 08:54 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 19-10-2018, 09:44 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Shifa - 20-10-2018, 07:15 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 20-10-2018, 08:28 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 19-10-2018, 10:42 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Dark_Swan - 19-10-2018, 10:57 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 19-10-2018, 10:55 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 19-10-2018, 11:58 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 20-10-2018, 01:08 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Megz - 20-10-2018, 01:28 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 20-10-2018, 05:59 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Shifa - 20-10-2018, 07:19 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 20-10-2018, 09:22 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Shifa - 21-10-2018, 04:17 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Dark_Swan - 21-10-2018, 04:25 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Shifa - 21-10-2018, 05:09 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Shifa - 21-10-2018, 05:17 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Dark_Swan - 21-10-2018, 06:59 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 21-10-2018, 06:10 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Shifa - 21-10-2018, 06:43 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Dark_Swan - 21-10-2018, 07:04 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 21-10-2018, 07:12 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by bosekk - 06-11-2018, 04:21 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 12-11-2018, 11:17 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by bosekk - 13-11-2018, 04:21 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 13-11-2018, 06:59 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Shifa - 03-11-2018, 02:49 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Shifa - 13-11-2018, 07:27 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Dark_Swan - 13-11-2018, 08:56 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 14-11-2018, 10:12 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Shifa - 15-11-2018, 04:25 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 16-11-2018, 10:18 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Shifa - 16-11-2018, 10:32 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Dark_Swan - 15-11-2018, 06:20 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 16-11-2018, 10:20 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by EllaC - 14-12-2018, 04:23 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by aimingforCcups - 26-12-2018, 07:04 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Shifa - 26-12-2018, 12:38 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by aimingforCcups - 26-12-2018, 08:54 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by EllaC - 19-01-2019, 11:31 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Shifa - 20-01-2019, 09:17 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 09-03-2019, 12:47 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by hannah - 13-04-2019, 12:08 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by UK1068 - 10-04-2019, 09:12 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by bosekk - 10-04-2019, 09:33 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 19-04-2019, 07:00 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by UK1068 - 10-04-2019, 09:49 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 19-04-2019, 07:09 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by bosekk - 19-04-2019, 04:15 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 19-04-2019, 06:37 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Vee7 - 05-07-2022, 07:47 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Lotus - 18-04-2019, 11:57 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 19-04-2019, 07:05 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by James98 - 20-04-2019, 02:20 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by sweetorange - 18-05-2019, 06:12 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Shifa - 18-05-2019, 07:02 PM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by Jenniferlove - 25-05-2019, 04:20 AM
RE: Nerve damage from pumping - by sweetorange - 31-05-2019, 04:14 PM
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