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#61

Dear forum members, 

I have today been made aware of this post on your forum and would value the opportunity to respond, firstly to reassure users of our products and also to be able clarify some incorrect information  about me and my company.  I have been developing and producing the Noogleberry system over the last 15 years and i would like to reassure you that in all this time, there has never been a case of harm or long lasting damage caused by the system brought to my attention. I have used the system throughout this time and if i thought it would cause damage to anyone's health i would certainly not promote it. It has been my life’s work and passion, to develop an affordable, non-surgical and safe method for breast enlargement and I am certainly not profiting significantly from my work. I have ploughed my time and money into this cause and often i will give my products away for free or at cost to me in order to help those less fortunate or who are struggling. I could have behaved like other companies and promised many things from our systems knowing full well that these could not be full-filled. To the contrary, i am always very honest with customers and will often advise them not to buy if i do not feel it is appropriate. My systems are not medical devices, but can be supportive treatment systems  to compliment and augment other therapies. We always advise users to use the system in line with our safety guidelines, and the times when i have experienced users problems is when they have increased the pressure or time with the system.  The system will NOT cause problems in other parts of the body such as the lower limbs etc and i have never heard of such side effects from pumping. 

Many plastic surgeons and other physicians use and recommend our systems to their patients for use, pre-fat transfer, pre-op and post explantation of implants etc. You can read about one plastic surgeon we have worked closely with over the last couple of years here: https://www.noogleberry.com/blog/plastic...estimonial

Over the last 15 years, not one of them have reported any unexpected side effects or long term damage. The use of my systems within the medical field is increasing especially since the implant scandals. This is because physicians know that it is an extremely safe method of tissue growth. This is not a new technique and has been in existence for many decades in the form of saline tissue expanders etc. Our system is a safer method. 

You will see from the Noogleberry forum that we have many many very happy users both females and males. If damage from the system was an issue, we would soon know about this on our forum which is totally unedited. I am always very proactive when users email me with any issues or problems and i will always stand by my systems because i know they are safe. If you have any further concerns or would like me to clarify the above, just let me know either on here or contact me privately. 

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#62

(16-10-2018, 10:14 AM)Lucynoogle Wrote:  Dear forum members, 

I have today been made aware of this post on your forum and would value the opportunity to respond, firstly to reassure users of our products and also to be able clarify some incorrect information  about me and my company.  I have been developing and producing the Noogleberry system over the last 15 years and i would like to reassure you that in all this time, there has never been a case of harm or long lasting damage caused by the system brought to my attention. I have used the system throughout this time and if i thought it would cause damage to anyone's health i would certainly not promote it. It has been my life’s work and passion, to develop an affordable, non-surgical and safe method for breast enlargement and I am certainly not profiting significantly from my work. I have ploughed my time and money into this cause and often i will give my products away for free or at cost to me in order to help those less fortunate or who are struggling. I could have behaved like other companies and promised many things from our systems knowing full well that these could not be full-filled. To the contrary, i am always very honest with customers and will often advise them not to buy if i do not feel it is appropriate. My systems are not medical devices, but can be supportive treatment systems  to compliment and augment other therapies. We always advise users to use the system in line with our safety guidelines, and the times when i have experienced users problems is when they have increased the pressure or time with the system.  The system will NOT cause problems in other parts of the body such as the lower limbs etc and i have never heard of such side effects from pumping. 

Many plastic surgeons and other physicians use and recommend our systems to their patients for use, pre-fat transfer, pre-op and post explantation of implants etc. You can read about one plastic surgeon we have worked closely with over the last couple of years here: https://www.noogleberry.com/blog/plastic...estimonial

Over the last 15 years, not one of them have reported any unexpected side effects or long term damage. The use of my systems within the medical field is increasing especially since the implant scandals. This is because physicians know that it is an extremely safe method of tissue growth. This is not a new technique and has been in existence for many decades in the form of saline tissue expanders etc. Our system is a safer method. 

You will see from the Noogleberry forum that we have many many very happy users both females and males. If damage from the system was an issue, we would soon know about this on our forum which is totally unedited. I am always very proactive when users email me with any issues or problems and i will always stand by my systems because i know they are safe. If you have any further concerns or would like me to clarify the above, just let me know either on here or contact me privately. 


Really disapointing this, the spokesperson of Noogleberry cant even reply on the content thats beeing written. I see you just say we are all lyers here, why do reply? Only to guarantee future revenue? And very funny you refer to the medical field AGAIN while your noogle system is developed in India or another primitive  country. And this matters because if you knew anything about the medical procedures that are beeing done, you know it takes at least 10-15 -testing-years before you can launch something. You and your pump are highly unprofessional in medical terms so please dont make yourself ridiculous just bc one surgeon tried it with your pump once and nothing happened. Also at your forum theres Stories about numbness, funny thing is you never go in on what they say. Now again, you just say we are a bunch of lyers making false claims and it is impossible... show us proof, look at the ugly nipples girls have gotten from it. Or did you miss all these pictures?
I have been mailing you like yeaars ago, and you wanted to put a lawyer on me lol...but you never heard complaints no? You really are in denial, to secure your stupid company. With fake forum pics and all. Go ahead make my day, the more you write the less people believe in your product. Its confirmed again we are lyers and nobody suffered damage from your product.. think we should all start pumping again...
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#63

(16-10-2018, 10:51 AM)hannah Wrote:  
(16-10-2018, 10:14 AM)Lucynoogle Wrote:  Dear forum members, 

I have today been made aware of this post on your forum and would value the opportunity to respond, firstly to reassure users of our products and also to be able clarify some incorrect information  about me and my company.  I have been developing and producing the Noogleberry system over the last 15 years and i would like to reassure you that in all this time, there has never been a case of harm or long lasting damage caused by the system brought to my attention. I have used the system throughout this time and if i thought it would cause damage to anyone's health i would certainly not promote it. It has been my life’s work and passion, to develop an affordable, non-surgical and safe method for breast enlargement and I am certainly not profiting significantly from my work. I have ploughed my time and money into this cause and often i will give my products away for free or at cost to me in order to help those less fortunate or who are struggling. I could have behaved like other companies and promised many things from our systems knowing full well that these could not be full-filled. To the contrary, i am always very honest with customers and will often advise them not to buy if i do not feel it is appropriate. My systems are not medical devices, but can be supportive treatment systems  to compliment and augment other therapies. We always advise users to use the system in line with our safety guidelines, and the times when i have experienced users problems is when they have increased the pressure or time with the system.  The system will NOT cause problems in other parts of the body such as the lower limbs etc and i have never heard of such side effects from pumping. 

Many plastic surgeons and other physicians use and recommend our systems to their patients for use, pre-fat transfer, pre-op and post explantation of implants etc. You can read about one plastic surgeon we have worked closely with over the last couple of years here: https://www.noogleberry.com/blog/plastic...estimonial

Over the last 15 years, not one of them have reported any unexpected side effects or long term damage. The use of my systems within the medical field is increasing especially since the implant scandals. This is because physicians know that it is an extremely safe method of tissue growth. This is not a new technique and has been in existence for many decades in the form of saline tissue expanders etc. Our system is a safer method. 

You will see from the Noogleberry forum that we have many many very happy users both females and males. If damage from the system was an issue, we would soon know about this on our forum which is totally unedited. I am always very proactive when users email me with any issues or problems and i will always stand by my systems because i know they are safe. If you have any further concerns or would like me to clarify the above, just let me know either on here or contact me privately. 


Really disapointing this, the spokesperson of Noogleberry cant even reply on the content thats beeing written. I see you just say we are all lyers here, why do reply? Only to guarantee future revenue? And very funny you refer to the medical field AGAIN while your noogle system is developed in India or another primitive  country. And this matters because if you knew anything about the medical procedures that are beeing done, you know it takes at least 10-15 -testing-years before you can launch something. You and your pump are highly unprofessional in medical terms so please dont make yourself ridiculous just bc one surgeon tried it with your pump once and nothing happened. Also at your forum theres Stories about numbness, funny thing is you never go in on what they say. Now again, you just say we are a bunch of lyers making false claims and it is impossible... show us proof, look at the ugly nipples girls have gotten from it. Or did you miss all these pictures?
I have been mailing you like yeaars ago, and you wanted to put a lawyer on me lol...but you never heard complaints  no? You really are in denial, to secure your stupid company. With fake forum pics and all. Go ahead make my day, the more you write the less people believe in your product. Its confirmed again we are lyers and nobody suffered damage from your product.. think we should all start pumping again...

Has everyone stopped noogling now? Im confused. I believe there are side effects to everything but i havent stopped noogling. Jenniferlove had amazing results- not sure if she retained them now after she has stopped due to nerve damage.. i have been using it for nearly two years now. My progress is not brilliant nonetheless i am bigger than before and i dont even religiously noogle. Could it not be over pumping that has caused the issue just like taking too much herbs can have an affect on our hormones etc? Im confused truly am. Im still using it- im really not biased when it comes to noogling nor am i endorsing their products but it feels like noogleberry success has taken a massive u turn.
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#64

Thank You Lucy!
Bobbi
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#65

(16-10-2018, 12:01 PM)Fruitcake Wrote:  
(16-10-2018, 10:51 AM)hannah Wrote:  
(16-10-2018, 10:14 AM)Lucynoogle Wrote:  Dear forum members, 

I have today been made aware of this post on your forum and would value the opportunity to respond, firstly to reassure users of our products and also to be able clarify some incorrect information  about me and my company.  I have been developing and producing the Noogleberry system over the last 15 years and i would like to reassure you that in all this time, there has never been a case of harm or long lasting damage caused by the system brought to my attention. I have used the system throughout this time and if i thought it would cause damage to anyone's health i would certainly not promote it. It has been my life’s work and passion, to develop an affordable, non-surgical and safe method for breast enlargement and I am certainly not profiting significantly from my work. I have ploughed my time and money into this cause and often i will give my products away for free or at cost to me in order to help those less fortunate or who are struggling. I could have behaved like other companies and promised many things from our systems knowing full well that these could not be full-filled. To the contrary, i am always very honest with customers and will often advise them not to buy if i do not feel it is appropriate. My systems are not medical devices, but can be supportive treatment systems  to compliment and augment other therapies. We always advise users to use the system in line with our safety guidelines, and the times when i have experienced users problems is when they have increased the pressure or time with the system.  The system will NOT cause problems in other parts of the body such as the lower limbs etc and i have never heard of such side effects from pumping. 

Many plastic surgeons and other physicians use and recommend our systems to their patients for use, pre-fat transfer, pre-op and post explantation of implants etc. You can read about one plastic surgeon we have worked closely with over the last couple of years here: https://www.noogleberry.com/blog/plastic...estimonial

Over the last 15 years, not one of them have reported any unexpected side effects or long term damage. The use of my systems within the medical field is increasing especially since the implant scandals. This is because physicians know that it is an extremely safe method of tissue growth. This is not a new technique and has been in existence for many decades in the form of saline tissue expanders etc. Our system is a safer method. 

You will see from the Noogleberry forum that we have many many very happy users both females and males. If damage from the system was an issue, we would soon know about this on our forum which is totally unedited. I am always very proactive when users email me with any issues or problems and i will always stand by my systems because i know they are safe. If you have any further concerns or would like me to clarify the above, just let me know either on here or contact me privately. 


Really disapointing this, the spokesperson of Noogleberry cant even reply on the content thats beeing written. I see you just say we are all lyers here, why do reply? Only to guarantee future revenue? And very funny you refer to the medical field AGAIN while your noogle system is developed in India or another primitive  country. And this matters because if you knew anything about the medical procedures that are beeing done, you know it takes at least 10-15 -testing-years before you can launch something. You and your pump are highly unprofessional in medical terms so please dont make yourself ridiculous just bc one surgeon tried it with your pump once and nothing happened. Also at your forum theres Stories about numbness, funny thing is you never go in on what they say. Now again, you just say we are a bunch of lyers making false claims and it is impossible... show us proof, look at the ugly nipples girls have gotten from it. Or did you miss all these pictures?
I have been mailing you like yeaars ago, and you wanted to put a lawyer on me lol...but you never heard complaints  no? You really are in denial, to secure your stupid company. With fake forum pics and all. Go ahead make my day, the more you write the less people believe in your product. Its confirmed again we are lyers and nobody suffered damage from your product.. think we should all start pumping again...

Has everyone stopped noogling now? Im confused. I believe there are side effects to everything but i havent stopped noogling. Jenniferlove had amazing results- not sure if she retained them now after she has stopped due to nerve damage.. i have been using it for nearly two years now. My progress is not brilliant nonetheless i am bigger than before and i dont even religiously noogle. Could it not be over pumping that has caused the issue just like taking too much herbs can have an affect on our hormones etc? Im confused truly am. Im still using it- im really not biased when it comes to noogling nor am i endorsing their products but it feels like noogleberry success has taken a massive u turn.

 Almost from the very beginning I would feel numbness while noogling. The sensation would always go away but it was early warning signs. Now my body reached it’s limit. 

 Regarding Lucy responding, of course she is going to act like her product is innocent. That is her livelihood. I can guarantee there are other people that have had these issues. Just go into the search bar on this forum and type in nerve damage. More issues pop up.

What’s even crazier is I have barely been noogling over the past few years. A little here and there every month.
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#66

I never tried to state that Noogleberry products was the reason for my problems in fact my problems all started before starting to pump . I have used pumping as a lot of people I'm sure as a way not to or ones that could not have surgery for implants . I was just trying to let Jenniferlove know that sometimes numbness can because of blood flow for what ever reason & getting it checked could not hurt to role it out . As for me & what happened to me I've always been a freak of nature one way or another .
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#67

(16-10-2018, 05:00 PM)Mindy Wrote:  I never tried to state that Noogleberry products was the reason for my problems in fact my problems all started before starting to pump . I have used pumping as a lot of people I'm sure as a way not to or ones that could not have surgery for implants . I was just trying to let Jenniferlove know that sometimes numbness can because of blood flow for what ever reason & getting it checked could not hurt to role it out . As for me & what happened to me I've always been a freak of nature one way or another .

Well my problems did begin with the noogleberry.  I never experienced numbness before this.  But just think about it and what we are doing.  We are sucking all the blood to one area of our body with a suction device. I would think this is obvious that this could cause weakness and serious damage to all veins, capillaries, lymph nodes, etc. in that area.

I think we don't think things will happen to *us* so we blindly continue our vices, which noogleberry is one. I was concerned with the numbness when noogling, but it was never enough to stop. When my lymph nodes began swelling up and numbness began I still didn't think it was the noogleberry because at that point I was barely noogling anymore.

It wasn't until a month or so ago when I noogled again and my arm went completely numb and wouldn't come back for a very long time that I put two and two together. Now I feel like the biggest idiot ever for not realizing all the very serious damage I was doing to my body.

If it was up to cigarette companies, they would not have any warnings for the damage their product does. You really think Lucy is going to admit to the potential negatives that could occur? A good business person, like I said, is a shark.
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#68

Hey Jannie I think it’s a relief to know  what’s going on in your body with all those tests. Your focus is to heal, and cut off possible cause of your symptoms.  For those who are using breast pump devices, I reviewed Brava, which is FDA And clinically proven. It remains the pressure level precisely around  2~3.3kPa(15~25mmHg). What exactly does it mean? It’s the level that won’t cut off capillary blood flow. Chinese cupping actually makes capillary damaged and bleeded, but that was suggested for no more than 10 mins,3 times per month. Since breast pump is a long term process, you need to make sure to maintain stable low pressure. Any hand pump, including noogleberry, is an imprecise and potentially dangerous mimic of brava system. I dont give much credit for the noogleberry designer, they forgo the most impotent issue-a safe and effective pressure monitor. So it becomes a try at your own risk thing.
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#69

(16-10-2018, 07:48 PM)bosekk Wrote:  Hey Jannie I think it’s a relief to know  what’s going on in your body with all those tests. Your focus is to heal, and cut off possible cause of your symptoms.  For those who are using breast pump devices, I reviewed Brava, which is FDA And clinically proven. It remains the pressure level precisely around  2~3.3kPa(15~25mmHg). What exactly does it mean? It’s the level that won’t cut off capillary blood flow. Chinese cupping actually makes capillary damaged and bleeded, but that was suggested for no more than 10 mins,3 times per month. Since breast pump is a long term process, you need to make sure to maintain stable low pressure. Any hand pump, including noogleberry, is an imprecise and potentially dangerous mimic of brava system. I dont give much credit for the noogleberry designer, they forgo the most impotent issue-a safe and effective pressure monitor. So it becomes a try at your own risk thing.
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#70

Thank you for writing. So you think this may be capillary blood flow loss?  I will talk to the doctors about that.  Any more information you can give me is greatly appreciated.  I have another doctor's visit on Friday.  I am now requesting to see a cardiologist and pray it gets approved.

And yes, by Lucy saying her system is harmless, that means we needn't worry about how hard we pump.  There really need to be a pressure gauge or how the hell do we know what is too much?

Sadly my symptoms are only getting worse, perhaps as the weather cools down.  I am sleeping sitting up to reduce numbness but it's no longer helping.  I fear a stroke or heart attack could happen any day. I crave hot showers and smoke, chemicals and coffee flare me up big time. My neck is still very swollen most often which to me suggests pooling of blood and my veins are almost non-existent on my left arm. All of these things point to blood vessel damage. I need to get a cat scan of my neck I feel.  The x-ray wasn't powerful enough.
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