[surferjoe2007]

Hey dear, sorry but I can’t get the point of your discussion, what’s a lollipop shape? Did u mean pear shape of apple shape? 
Not all pear-shaped females have estrogen dominance, I have all the symptoms of lack of estrogen and lack of progesterone, with few symptoms of Hight testosterone. 


I read a lot of pear-shaped girls experiences with PC only, and they claim shrinkage after using PC, so i’m scared to try. 

I don’t care if I gain weight, I can accept wider thights with a C cup, but I don’t want to gain just thights. 

I usually read ainterol forum, and the results of biological male who write there (I never read a post of a biological female) are amazing! 
Why it works on biological males and not on my body? This is so frustrating . 


Everyday I think on surgery, but it’s difficult to find a surgery who performs fat transfer in my country and i don’t want silicone in my body!

Apple shape I suppose.  Yes it's possible that your hormones are different, but you need a hormone test to be sure.  Either way try the foods and other tips and it is likely to balance you out regardless.  And most people ideally need both PM & PC.  Either one alone can inhibits growth unless your body already has enough of the other.  The point was there are flat chested girls who grow from PC alone, and plenty where PM alone stops their growth.  And probably people with the reverse situation too yes.  It all depends on existing hormones and balancing out estrogen and progesterone because that along with other factors are what causes growth.  Messing with large amounts of PM or PC without confirming you need it often leads to trouble.  I'd suggest small amounts of both to start along with nutrition and other herbs, then slowly try a little more of each one at a time to see what works.  A ton of either one might through you way out of balance and halt NBE.  Even if it's the one you need you might easily do too much.

Bio males often (but not always) grow because they naturally already have plenty of progesterone and may not have anything inhibiting their growth like a female AA cup might.  They are always missing estrogen, so supplying that leads to growth.  If they were born bio female they might have breasts without any herbs.  They start flat because they're bio male, not because there was some problem making them flat.  A woman who is flat is more likely to have some problem, and rarely is it lack of estrogen and only lack of estrogen.  Try the foods listed in the thread in case it's some problem.  Avoid too much PM or PC or anything strong in the meantime without a hormonal test to confirm.  Or you might be doing more harm than good with a wrong guess.  You can always get a hormonal test and find out.  Or if you guess then test small amounts like 250 mg PM or 1/4 tsp PC, or less.  If it doesn't work, try something else.  They're so strong that using more when it doesn't work is likely to make things worse not better.