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Are herbs safe to take while on antidepressants?

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(28-04-2018, 07:50 AM)cutiesweets Wrote:  
(24-04-2018, 03:24 PM)surferjoe2007 Wrote:  Yes and no.

Some can increase the effectiveness of the antidepressents which may screw with the dose.  Often the saponin ones like fenugreek.

If you have depression issues they also tend to strain the same resources of your body as BE.  So it would be a good idea to not use any NBE herbs at all until the depression is sorted out.  Most won't hurt you greatly, but they could all worsen depression and/or not make you grow due to the depression.  Due to competing resources.  Whole food carbs or the food mix in my first sig link can help tremendously.  I've had depression issues a long time ago and it made a world of difference.

SJW is NOT deadly to take while on antidepressents.  They say that because it is quite effective against depression and there is theoretical risk of overdose.  Mostly you want to watch for overdose if you do use SJW, and ease off the meds.  SJW tends to replace and be better than SSRI antidepressents.
So are you saying it is pointless to try to increase breast size naturally while dealing with depression? if that is the case, maybe that is why I have not seen much progress. No anti-depressants work for me and on top of that, I have very, very high stress levels that never go away because of anxiety and the depression. 

Am I just wasting my time?
Most likely yes.  I'd focus on the anxiety and depression first and wait on NBE until it at least starts to improve.  Especially NBE herbs.  A couple months to several months perhaps.

Actually what I used a long time ago for depression is very similar to the nuts, bran and etc. in my first sig link.  Worked wonders.  To hurry it along you can also try:

Serotonin: If you are on an SSRI then 5-HTP can also help replenish the resources you need to make serotonin.  Like SJW be wary of overdose if you are taking depression meds at the same time.  Try a low dose, and see if you're allowed to lower your meds at the same time.  That said SSRI meds are pretty mild and it's not likely to cause a huge problem.  Saint John's Wort Extract performs better than SSRI meds in many studies, but likewise be careful of overdose if using both at the same time.  The dose is 300-1800 mg 0.3% hypericin extract.  And we don't have $30 million drug studies done on non-drugs because no one will pay for them.  So switch gradually and with caution.  That said the studies we do have are very promising in terms of better effectiveness and safety.  Like the drug SJWE doesn't actually replenish your serotonin stores so 5-HTP is better.  Start with slowly adding in 5-HTP and maybe or maybe not add in SJWE.

For dopamine, amphetamine or other related antidepressents you use mucuna pruriens to restore your missing dopamine.  The drugs are tweaked narcotics that force you to release dopamine instead and depletes your reserves.  Mucuna pruriens merely supplies dopamine and any excess can be stored away.  So there isn't a risk of addiction or getting high like the drugs.  Dose varies by the strength of mucuna pruriens and the persons needs, if any.  Because extra is stored away overdose is less likely on mucuna pruriens alone, but likewise be careful of overdose if using at the same time as drugs.  In fact it's better to take them at different times of the day on top of limiting amounts.

For anxiety you want GABA.  GABA supplements don't actually enter the brain though and don't do much.  For that you can get Picamilon, GABA bound with niacin.  So supplies GABA in a way that reaches the brain.  Unlike drugs that force the release of GABA and deplete it over time.  It used to be an extremely nice supplement but even though nobody was getting hurt the FDA reclassified it as a drug.  Which you can only get from Russia since it isn't made in the U.S.  It was prescription there but now I believe it's over the counter.  U.S. drugs are still prescription only because they aren't as safe.  There are pain in the butt places where you can order it online, but I think you're supposed to have a prescription to import it.  Not sure.  If so it's catch 22 because it isn't prescribed or available in the U.S.  They often don't check though.  Dose is 50-200 mg, taken in the morning.  Or while it's not that great and much of it won't get used for your anxiety, you can take GABA to at least provide some resources.

Or you can skip all that and just use the nuts, bran and etc. if you're patient.  They provide all the needed resources including much more than the above.  They'll just go everywhere and not directly to the brain.  But I wouldn't use the above without the nuts & bran, since they won't replenish everything you need.
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