05-06-2017, 11:11 PM
My dearest Zara,
Lol, I did understand your points, did you not understand mine?. With all ignorance aside, my views on measuring global cultural beauty standards are a product in futility. You see, while you analyze such things (beauty standards) in sociology, I do so in scientific methodology, maybe that's not so different though.
Looking at cultures (past and present) the sex appeal of breasts has been exploited and overemphasized by men (for the most part), possibly as far back as primates, lol. In other words, unrealistic beauty standards are a product of our own making, and therein lays the futility....that's not to say having a debate about cultural (call it) misrepresentations, insecurities, or bias is any less important. I'm old school, lol...... beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I addressed the op's query (and in part, yours) which is why I attached the post from my friend, which I'll point out again.
Only 25% to 35% of the U.S. Caucasian population is capable of converting daidzein to equol, whereas people in high soy consumption areas of Asia have rates closer to 40% to 60%. There is some evidence that Hispanic or Latino women are also more likely to be equol producers. Approximately 80% to 90% of people harbor the bacteria required to produce ODMA. The frequency of equol producers in one study of vegetarians was found to be 59%.
As noted, Hispanic, Latino and Vegetarians have similar metabolism of soy as some asian countries...(link in provided above). Additionally, it appears converting equol in gut metabolism protects against breast cancer (via ERβ...estrogen receptor beta).
Equol has been shown to have the strongest binding affinities and estrogenic activities (especially for ERβ) among the daidzin metabolites and has been hypothesized to be largely responsible for the estrogen-like activities of soy and its isoflavones. However, there is a great deal of variation among individuals in the metabolism of genistin and daidzin, which appears to be dependent partly on environmental factors, including other components of the diet, and partly on genetic factors.
Lol, I did understand your points, did you not understand mine?. With all ignorance aside, my views on measuring global cultural beauty standards are a product in futility. You see, while you analyze such things (beauty standards) in sociology, I do so in scientific methodology, maybe that's not so different though.
Looking at cultures (past and present) the sex appeal of breasts has been exploited and overemphasized by men (for the most part), possibly as far back as primates, lol. In other words, unrealistic beauty standards are a product of our own making, and therein lays the futility....that's not to say having a debate about cultural (call it) misrepresentations, insecurities, or bias is any less important. I'm old school, lol...... beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I addressed the op's query (and in part, yours) which is why I attached the post from my friend, which I'll point out again.
Only 25% to 35% of the U.S. Caucasian population is capable of converting daidzein to equol, whereas people in high soy consumption areas of Asia have rates closer to 40% to 60%. There is some evidence that Hispanic or Latino women are also more likely to be equol producers. Approximately 80% to 90% of people harbor the bacteria required to produce ODMA. The frequency of equol producers in one study of vegetarians was found to be 59%.
(05-06-2017, 02:07 AM)ZaraAri Wrote: Pointing out that Asians consume more soy than any other country and therefore should be expected to have bigger breasts, is not taking into consideration how soy is consumed within a diet, nor how that relates to a functioning NBE program.
As noted, Hispanic, Latino and Vegetarians have similar metabolism of soy as some asian countries...(link in provided above). Additionally, it appears converting equol in gut metabolism protects against breast cancer (via ERβ...estrogen receptor beta).
Equol has been shown to have the strongest binding affinities and estrogenic activities (especially for ERβ) among the daidzin metabolites and has been hypothesized to be largely responsible for the estrogen-like activities of soy and its isoflavones. However, there is a great deal of variation among individuals in the metabolism of genistin and daidzin, which appears to be dependent partly on environmental factors, including other components of the diet, and partly on genetic factors.