[surferjoe2007]

PM is problematic for many including EllaC and they shouldn't use it until they get their hormones and health in order.  It will probably only give them a lot of trouble with little or no growth.  It has also worked for many women when used in moderation.

As far as I can tell from studies at pubmed.gov it is unlikely that phytoestrogen herbs increase breast cancer rate, and they probably decrease it a little.  We need more studies to confirm.  However they have thousands of years of use plus modern use and I never hear about breast cancer stories.  For those who take real estrogen OTOH stories of them getting breast cancer are fairly common.  Those with breast cancer and so on probably shouldn't chance it, but most likely it's totally fine to use phytoestrogens.  And maybe even beneficial to health.

True, the amount of fenugreek or soy in a typical diet isn't significant.  Implants also don't have a significant impact on the average either.  5% of women have them which is actually a gigantic industry.  But assuming an average increase of 2 cup sizes that only adds 0.1 cup sizes to the average.  Likewise most aren't growing on purpose or are so haphazard and know so little that they aren't growing much.  Most of the cup size average comes from unintentional circumstance.