[surferjoe2007]

Thanks Lotus and AbiDrew!

I didn´t test prolactin or androgens so I don´t know if those are normal. Wouldn't vitex lower both prolactin and testosterone anyway though?

Maybe I'll stop the shatavari for a couple months until my progesterone can catch up so I don't end up more estorgen dominant. Will just using vitex and licorice during luteal be enough to grow? I´m still not clear why PC cream works more often than vitex if the goal is just to to balance everything...

Vitex pushes your body to produce a little more progesterone. That's why you can take it all month; your body will only make the progesterone at the normal time. PC *IS* progesterone. That's why most people only use it at the right time of the month, though some try different timings. There is a limit to how much progesterone your body will make while influenced by vitex. Whereas with PC however much you use is how much you get. So PC is the nuclear approach that you must control, vitex is the gentle approach where your body will reign it in and keep it under control. Vitex will work eventually and you can be careless about it, but it may take a lot longer. PC will work faster, but you might overdo it or mess with your cycle a little due to the timing.

I always thought both fenugreek and shatavari helped balance hormones. Though I could see how they might cause trouble in a major imbalance since they might have trouble raising a hormone that's heavily inhibited while the other one could still get raised.