[hannah]

I am starting to understand it Lotus, I might need another read lol. But is fenugreek a no-go now? Because i started taking it internally mid cycle according Dynselli's e-book. And it does what is says for me. I am combining it with soy and spearmint but thats another story. Also have about a kilo of that stuff atm   I am not going to throw that all away lol.

So one question what is more effective internal aloe vera or external application? And should I get it fresh from a plant?
And is it either the lavender oil or either the aloe vera since both are phytoestrogenic or can we combine both?

Massaging aloe plus olive oil didnt had a lot of effect on me in the past...but its worth another try!
There are times in nbe where you react to things and times when it just doesnt work. I know it is some kinda receptor thing.

Hi Hannah,

Sorry, I'm not recommending fenugreek mixed with Aloe Vera, I wouldn't throw it out. The derivatives of aloe vera by far outweigh that of fenugreek, we don't want to lessen the potential of aloe by mixing the signaling pathways. 

I won't also recommend soy or soy flour. Imho soy spikes insulin, which spikes T and packs on weight. 

I've tried the two versions of aloe, one with the laxative (aloin) part taken out and one with it left in. Once you remove aloin you lose the antiviral benefit. I prefer the antiviral route, and so do my breasts lol. 

I have yet to post at least half a dozen (and counting) studies treating cancer using aloe. 

The optional protocol using aloe is for massage mixed with olive oil, from experience they work synergistically. Optionally lavender could be added, but not required.

One thing I wanted to try (and haven't) was massaging with a MSM cream. MSM is a small molecule at 94.13 g/mol. Well below the dalton rule of 500 g/mol. If you're new to the dalton rule please check post #63 in this thread. But I think it's not needed with aloe as it boosts hyaluronic acid and builds collagen and triggers tissue engineering (stem cells). Just make sure the aloe vera is organic.

Thanks love. I am addicted to new nbe approaches. For me packing on weight due soy milk is good as I am still underweight. I also cant use anti androfens as I am on the low side of T and I couldnt function in daily life anymore when I took anti androgens. My muscles became very weak, and they still are.
I tried msm cream, definitely tightens and thickened the upper skin. But no need for that if you already have tight breasts. 
I wanted to ask whatya think about cod liver oil? I have been taking bits of it lately and I have fuller bossom from it!!
Had one other last question about "somastine"? , does aloe vera inhibit that bad for boobs substance?
Good to have you back here Lotus!

Hi Hannah, (thanks, good to be back).
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Cod liver is high in vitamin A and D. From the research I've seen and posted vitamin A is pro-aromatase. It's also helpful treating anemia. 

Good question regarding the possibility of aloe inhibiting somatostatin. I believe it does, (though indirectly). I'll share some info later today. 

Ah soo you are staying for awile now?
Guess I dont quite understand the somastostin part or at least what we can do about it..
Hmm, okay...when does our body says enough of all this estrogen feeding formulas...uninteded we get a lot of this stuff... I like bigger breasts but an overload of estrogen will screw with my muscles..I dont have scienctific backup for this. But my body doesnt stay strong when all hormones,go in the e-direction.