[AquaA]

AquaArab,

I use PC only on luteal. And yeah, I use PC throughout my PM program because I messed up my cycle before I did went into my present NBE program.

But the breaks after 3 or 4 months helped a lot too.

Hey koko, thanks for your reply!

Did you obtain the growth when you took the break or did you grow after the break?
I've seen your pictures and great progress!
Are you still taking it?

Happy growing

[PetiteFille]

Thank you so much Aqua! Your advice was helpful.

Im gonna start cycling.
Yes i actually took some during ovulation.

Actually im now on my periods. It wasnt just spotting, but my periods came now. The cramps are being mild .. hoping it normalizes by tonight, its my friend's wedding.
This cycle was 26 days.

[bustybride]

I just started PM with my period, I am on Day 6, so far other than one day that I have been very emotional I have felt amazing. I am doing nothing more than just taking PM, no other pills, creams or massaging I suck at being consistent with things so I figured this is something that I can do... Maybe it's just me but my hair feels thicker and like it's growing more. Today I work up with my girls feeling tender and a bit swollen but could very well just be my period, that happens to them some times, I am being hopeful. Here are this mornings pics, this with no bra just a camay, they seem perkier to me... (can't confirm it's due to PM as it's so early...) I plan to cycle when my period starts for 14 days then stop, and start again with my cycle. I have heard so many ways of using PM it's overwhelming... Hope I don't have any issues with it!

[lareinee]

I just want to bump up this thread again, because I have read elsewhere that some ladies are spotting while on PM. Mine has been a week so far. 3rd-6th day of spotting I had some blood so idk if it was just a short light period of 20 days or if I am still spotting?

Right now I am technically on day 24. Not sure if what I had was an early cycle or indeed spotting...

Not sure when I should restart my PM. Will be on FG til then

Pls share your spotting travails, if any, while on PM.

[EdithHooters97]

I've been spotting every month that I've tried to take PM, I took 500mg a day from Day2-15, and when I stop on day 15 I start spotting a couple days later.

I think it's too rapid a drop in estrogen for my body, because I am estrogen deficient. I'm wondering if I should take it longer, or if I should take half a pill a day or something.

Because I'll spot for a couple of days, and then never get the full period until a month later, so I can't start up on the PM again until a month later when the period finally comes.

Very frustrating. I wish I had more information on PM for women with low estrogen but I can't find anything on this forum about that.

[lareinee]

I've been spotting every month that I've tried to take PM, I took 500mg a day from Day2-15, and when I stop on day 15 I start spotting a couple days later.

I think it's too rapid a drop in estrogen for my body, because I am estrogen deficient. I'm wondering if I should take it longer, or if I should take half a pill a day or something.

Because I'll spot for a couple of days, and then never get the full period until a month later, so I can't start up on the PM again until a month later when the period finally comes.

Very frustrating. I wish I had more information on PM for women with low estrogen but I can't find anything on this forum about that.

For me, I am actually not sure if after the spotting, it was indeed my menstruation. I know I should know my own body, but honestly, I never had real PMS...so it's hard to say. Though the night before I had blood spotting, I had a crazy migraine I've never had before...so if I were to interpret it as PMS while on PM, I should be on Day 7 on my new cycle today... thinking if I should take PM on day 7-14.

But yes I am not sure if I should restart PM or wait for my next 'real' cycle. So I feel ya.

Maybe you could try and lower ur dosage and see how it goes? I took strong extracts at 200mg. So maybe I'll do it slowly like 100mg only on Day 7-14.

[BestBreasts]

I haven't been cycling my PM for about 2 months.... i spotted for about 4 days before I got my period...im on the 11th day of my period, counting the spotting days.. usually my period lasts about 4-5days....

i think this is normal for PM, especially if you don't cycle & take a large dose.
hope you're okay!!!! xox

[jet]

So glad I came looking to see if there was a thread like this.
I bought Thanyaporn and asked a helpful Thai seller who takes it herself if I should cycle (she said she takes it every day and one a day, approx. 105mg extract).
*back story, I was taking fenugreek and fennel seeds twice a day until I noticed my period was going to start early, that was in July, so I stopped them completely but my period started anyway (19 day cycle that month) and then lasted longer than usual, it coincided with the Supermoon so I thought since I am quite affected by the lunar cycles that it had done a number on me!

Meanwhile my next period was very late, arriving around day 41. A week or so before the start of this cycle I started on Maca 10g raw powder with my porridge. Then I added in MSM and finally the PM on day one of this cycle. I intended not to cycle the PM, but I have had menstrual flow for 15 days now which has rather shocked me but again we are waiting for the third Supermoon in a row so I was half waiting it out and didn't want to discuss with a doctor. I just read elsewhere that this can signify low progesterone so I won't take the PM tomorrow and tonight I am going to see if I can get any of my PC out of the tube, it's almost empty. Should I start on FG in my luteal phase or is that too oestrogenic?

[lareinee]

So glad I came looking to see if there was a thread like this.
I bought Thanyaporn and asked a helpful Thai seller who takes it herself if I should cycle (she said she takes it every day and one a day, approx. 105mg extract).
*back story, I was taking fenugreek and fennel seeds twice a day until I noticed my period was going to start early, that was in July, so I stopped them completely but my period started anyway (19 day cycle that month) and then lasted longer than usual, it coincided with the Supermoon so I thought since I am quite affected by the lunar cycles that it had done a number on me!

Meanwhile my next period was very late, arriving around day 41. A week or so before the start of this cycle I started on Maca 10g raw powder with my porridge. Then I added in MSM and finally the PM on day one of this cycle. I intended not to cycle the PM, but I have had menstrual flow for 15 days now which has rather shocked me but again we are waiting for the third Supermoon in a row so I was half waiting it out and didn't want to discuss with a doctor. I just read elsewhere that this can signify low progesterone so I won't take the PM tomorrow and tonight I am going to see if I can get any of my PC out of the tube, it's almost empty. Should I start on FG in my luteal phase or is that too oestrogenic?

Hi Jet,

From what I have read, FG is an adaptogen so although it contains phytoestrogens, it is not as strong as PM...and I don't think it is "too estrogenic" you don't want your estrogen to suddenly drop anyway...you want to keep it balanced in a more stable way. I should have continued with FG immediately rather than taking a few days break after stopping my PM..I think that's why I spotted due to sudden drop in estrogen.

I also am using Thanyaporn. Because of my spotting and horrible PMS that I had with it during my last cycle, I decided to use it on Day7-14 for just one week, when my estrogen level is at its peak, and then use fg and fennel until my period come. I have also adding EPO to my regimen. Hopefully no drastic spotting this time round.

Have you seen any growth though? For me, nothing measurable, just that my breasts are slightly more than a handful, so that is good. Keep me posted, good luck.

[jet]

Thanks lareinee that's reassuring, I put some seeds to soak last night so I will take some tonight and in the morning, and get back into the habit of taking them regularly again.
I'll keep a close eye on this thread and keep you posted too