(13-09-2012, 12:53 AM)booga119 Wrote: So I'm new to this board and new to natural breast enlargement. I've always been satisfied with my breasts, but I would love to have larger ones.
So here's my stats
Sex: female
Age: 27
Height: 5'5"
Weight: 148lbs
Band: 36
Cup: b , slightly loose in some bra brands
no children or breastfeeding
Any medications including BC: birth control, protein shake with glutamine after lifting, fish oil, multivitamin
Diet: I keep a strict diet 5 days a week with high protein (150ish grams of protein), low starchy carbs, 40-50grams of fat at around 1800-2000 calories. On my "off days" I eat what I want in moderation and don't keep track
Exercise: weight training 4 days a week (45-60 minutes per session) I have been weight training for several years.
If NBE has been tried, what was tried and when? How did it go:
Several years ago tried a cream that I can't even remember the name of. I don't think it did anything. Hard to remember
So, in browsing the forums I'm going to start by ramping up my dosage of fenugreek and adding in wild yam. I read that saw palmetto is good, but I'm wary of cellulite that I heard could be a problem? Should I use an alternative?
I will also be doing a nightly breast massage made from cocoa butter, vitamin e and fenugreek with the heat pad after. Can I just open a pill to use for the fenugreek? Or should I go shopping for a liquid version?
I still need to do some research for a weekly wrap, but when I find out how to do it, I plan on including that.
Any comments, advice, constructive criticisms? Thanks a bunch
This might be applicable... What kind of birth control?
Now it's time to get slightly technical on you... If I lose you, feel free to ask for clarification.
From your description of yourself you might be a case of someone who has inadvertently "programmed" her body to produce slightly excessive testosterone. Do you, other than slightly flat breasts, experience any other indications of this? Hirsutism? That means excessive hair btw.
The reason I'm predicting this hypothesis is because all your habits you described to me are recently being shown to actually program various glands in your body to increase testosterone production. High protein, low carbs, moderate fat... Lots of resistance training type exercise. These all help build muscle. Building muscle sends the signal to various of your glands that you need more testosterone. More testosterone means less estrogen and progesterone. Less estrogen and progesterone means... Yeah, I think you probably get where I'm going with this.
Now. I'm not saying cut back the protein. In fact... I'm more going to ask what protein sources you're using? If it's mostly meat-based, and that mostly red meat... consider going mostly bean based, with a sprinkling of fish and poultry and MAYBE some meat by-product - whey's actually pretty amazing, that's milk protein. Soy protein is more incredible. It's not really quite considered a complete protein on it's own, but combined with fish and poultry it does... and it slightly leans to being more geared towards the amino acid profile that helps boob growth. Bean protein in general is the "girl protein".
You might also consider increasing your MORNING carbs. Evening carbs are bad. Morning carbs are good. Carbs in the morning help to "wake up" your body in LOTS of ways and are absolutely essential. Carbs in the evening tend to get mostly turned into fat stores as your body goes into rest mode. A general lack of carbs altogether generally encourages your body to BREAK DOWN GOOD FAT to produce energy. In combination with a testosterone boosting exercise regimen....... Yeah...
Be careful what type of carbs though! ABSOLUTELY avoid refined grains! Whole grains only! The absolute best grains for you are buckwheat and rye. Wheat's OK. Oats are better... Of course, this largely depends on your own allergies and other contraindications for any particular grain source... the main things to look out for when choosing your grain is to avoid too much starch, but don't be all religious about it, veggie starches are actually pretty healthy in moderation. Make sure it's high in fiber. Of course, a good amino acid profile (protein, grains aren't particularly high in protein, but what they have contribute to the overall amino acid profile of your dietary protein) and ABSOLUTELY avoid excessive refining! That refining strips the nutrients and fiber and protein and leaves you with something that closely resembles gum. Starchy gum. Seriously.
You might also consider changing up your exercise regimen. You don't need to stop the resistance training. But you should mix in some anaerobic and aerobic exercise as well. We want to interrupt that signal to produce more testosterone.
If simply making those kinds of changes to your habits doesn't do the trick... You may consider going the T-blocking route of an NBE regimen. Maybe introduce progesterone a little later in your program, depending on a few factors I'm not going into at this time.
Saw Palmetto is the usual Go-To herb of choice for T blocking. It acts fast. It acts in more than one way. It's a powerful herb to use. The problem with it is that it also contains a small amount of a weak phytoestrogen. This is what tends to cause the cellulite problem. Simultaneous disruption of T receptors and increased sensitivity of estrogen receptors is the perfect recipe for cellulite.
Unfortunately, there really is no way to prevent this possible side effect. Anything you use that could possibly block T at all will also stimulate E receptors. Through one means or another. Except Chinese Skullcap, which comes with its own problems I'll talk about later.
All I can say for that... Welll.... You coooooould consider taking an adaptogen that works on the pituitary gland. Low dose Chasteberry in combination with low to moderate dose Saw Palmetto could quite possibly be an interesting and maybe effective way of handling the problem.
Another possibility is Chinese Skullcap and Pueraria Mirifica. CS blocks the pathways to both Testosterone and Estradiol. PM contains miroestrol, converted in the body to deoxymiroestrol, which is chemically nigh indistinguishable from estradiol. Another possibility of a combination with CS is glandular therapy. Bovine Ovary contains cow estradiol and progesterone. Close enough to human estradiol and progesterone to be effective.
Between the two possible CS combos... I'd be more likely to suggest PM. It's got fewer links to increased estrogen-sensitive cancer risks. Breast. Uterine. Ovarian... yeah. Nasty stuff. BO itself hasn't been linked yet, buuuuuut... Premarin has. Premarin is horse estrogen... Just sayin...
I'm not positive, but I think CS + BO might be cheaper than CS + PM...
Okay... I've probably long since overloaded your brain and fried the circuits, so I'll stop talking now.
