17-12-2009, 02:27 AM
I'm new this thread
25, single, openly bi-sexual black woman who looks like a man by design and own preference (at times).
I've decided want to feminize my body naturally, after giving prescription drugs a try. I've always had manly body and even acted very mannish throughout my life, lots of body hair and little facial hair. I have what people would call a "bird chest" or mookish people would say "the girl with a flat chest." I woke up one day and said I was going to go get myself some boobies, naturally, after coming across some of testimonies online and few friends.
I just recently started my program, about 3 weeks as of this Sunday. To make things work, I have temporarily given up soda and other caffeine items, because it disturbs the process as I've heard.
I've had a few results, my nipples hardened when touch almost after 3 or 4 seconds, hitting breezy wind, or wearing a tiny shirt or undergarment. They are so sensitive they give me orgasms when I massage them at night. Yay. I am often in a better mood and have more energy to strenuous activity and physical exercise. I don't think my skin has ever glowed as much as it has in the last 2 weeks than it has in the last 12 years.
My program includes:
phytoestrogen +EFA (2280 mg - 4560 mg a day): It is compound of (Borage Oil, Soy-Non GM, Evening Primrose Oil, Flax Seed Oil, Mexi Yam - Mexican Wild Yam, Dong Quai, and Black Cohosh) - I thought it would be a good kickstart for my body which is astronomically low in estrogen. So low that it might could apply for the Guinness Books of World Records. Also, one of my male friends said he took this and went up 2 sizes in 2 months, where he could even fill out a A-cup bra, but not quite B though. That's what got me interested in this thing is, if a man could do it so fast, why can't I. . . not because I am a woman, but because my body is androgen dominated kingdom.
Fenugreek (started at 1220 mg - 2440 mg a day): I mostly used this one because it promotes prolactin levels and helps lactation. I think it is perfect for pregnant women and anyone who is lactating (but not quite getting enough). Yet, I figure those things could help some breasts growth as a complimentary supplement, since prolactin (milk ducts) do sometimes promote size. There's not alot of evidence out there saying it helps grow breasts, but some people have said otherwise from personal experiences.
Dr.DUke's Essentials (book, a renowned herbalist named Dr. James Duke, believes it is sits at the top as the most mastogenic herb on out there, since it contains a high concentration of phytoestrogen)
http://www.breastfeedingonline.com/fenugreek.shtml
http://www.holistic-herbalist.com/breast...ction.html
http://www.mothernature.com/Library/Book.../54/14.cfm
Red Clover Extract (860 mg to 1720 mg a day): RC is said to have the most numbers of isoflavones in its compound, possibly more so than Pueraria Mirifica. And as we know, isoflavones do exhibit many estrogenic activities in the human body. But, I don't think accelerating breast density is one of them.
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-122581719.html
Wild Yam Root (850 to 1700 mg a day): Wild Yam as we all know by now, doesn't convert to estrogen, progesterone, or any other type of hormone in the body. But, it does cause estrogenic effects with the high levels diosgenin, like Fenugreek. Also it is noted in PDR and the natural medicine database, that wild yam did cause mammary tissue growth in ovariectomized rats after 15 days of dosage at 20 mg/40 mg each. Though, no studies been observed in humans, as indivduals have personally said it has worked through testimonies. Thought would help the boobies come out, hey if it works in rat, why shouldn't it work on me in enough dosage.
Hops (620 mg to 1650 mg): Hops is very much known for its sedative and drowsiness effects, and the people of the past who used it (and those who currently use it) know what they are talking about. The herb can be very sedative and sleep inducing, a specialty for anyone suffering from insomnia. It also has a chemical known as 8-prenylnaringenin, which is said to have the partial potency of estradiol...but only 0.2% to 20% compared to the powerful hormone. Still, remember in so many dosages (couple of hundred or thousand milligrams, it could produce significant results.) In fact, I found a transgender woman who runs her own website that claims that she was able to produce significant results within 4 months by taking about 7,500 milligrams of hops a day (I would do that, but I am taking to many other products). She said her breasts grew, testicles shrunk, and she actually replied to my email, a very nice lady. Here the link is below the first two:
http://www.migraine101.com/phyto.htm
http://www.drugs.com/npp/hops.html
http://thor.prohosting.com/tgonhops/irenes_story.htm
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=1282177
Kava (300 mg to 1200 mg-on odd days): I actually started taking this for something else, more energy and better brain functioning. But, I later found out that, the Kava is actually a dopamine inhibitor in small doses and promotes higher prolactin levels. Which works for me...Also, I found a study that showed that as dopamine inhibitor it has the potential to allow mammoplasia. It would make sense, because dopamine inhibits prolactin levels. There are even Kava creams on the market, which are promoted as breast enhancement.
http://www.acog.org/from_home/publicatio...477fla.htm (This article has been posted several times).
I will try Saw Pal later, if there isn't any improvement or for the fact that there might be gains and it will be able to keep them from possibly sagging or deteriorating like a number of people have said. While, it is also testosterone blocker and inhibits androgens. Also, I might use pueraria with it, if I don't like the size that might have a few weeks or months.
Then I think I might top everything off with bovine ovary, since phytoestrogenic effects are very fleeting and can return the body to what it was or worse decrease in bust size.
Growing Pains: Hot flashes, especially the mornings here and there. But that's good thing for me, since I rarely have them in the first place because of body's estrogen that has been apparently abducted by UFO and taken all hopes of breast growth with them. Nipples can ache on odd days, but when it is massage time ... it can be intensely fun. I get gas from the red clovers and fenugreek, sometimes. My hair in some parts of my body doesn't seem to be growing as fast, since I shaved a few days before starting my programing. I would even find fathomable to say that one of these herbs are good for hair inhibiting (probably red clover, hops, or black cohosh) or reducing androgens in your body.
http://georgiahealthinfo.gov/cms/node/127180
http://womynweb.com/herb2.htm
25, single, openly bi-sexual black woman who looks like a man by design and own preference (at times).
I've decided want to feminize my body naturally, after giving prescription drugs a try. I've always had manly body and even acted very mannish throughout my life, lots of body hair and little facial hair. I have what people would call a "bird chest" or mookish people would say "the girl with a flat chest." I woke up one day and said I was going to go get myself some boobies, naturally, after coming across some of testimonies online and few friends.
I just recently started my program, about 3 weeks as of this Sunday. To make things work, I have temporarily given up soda and other caffeine items, because it disturbs the process as I've heard.
I've had a few results, my nipples hardened when touch almost after 3 or 4 seconds, hitting breezy wind, or wearing a tiny shirt or undergarment. They are so sensitive they give me orgasms when I massage them at night. Yay. I am often in a better mood and have more energy to strenuous activity and physical exercise. I don't think my skin has ever glowed as much as it has in the last 2 weeks than it has in the last 12 years.
My program includes:
phytoestrogen +EFA (2280 mg - 4560 mg a day): It is compound of (Borage Oil, Soy-Non GM, Evening Primrose Oil, Flax Seed Oil, Mexi Yam - Mexican Wild Yam, Dong Quai, and Black Cohosh) - I thought it would be a good kickstart for my body which is astronomically low in estrogen. So low that it might could apply for the Guinness Books of World Records. Also, one of my male friends said he took this and went up 2 sizes in 2 months, where he could even fill out a A-cup bra, but not quite B though. That's what got me interested in this thing is, if a man could do it so fast, why can't I. . . not because I am a woman, but because my body is androgen dominated kingdom.
Fenugreek (started at 1220 mg - 2440 mg a day): I mostly used this one because it promotes prolactin levels and helps lactation. I think it is perfect for pregnant women and anyone who is lactating (but not quite getting enough). Yet, I figure those things could help some breasts growth as a complimentary supplement, since prolactin (milk ducts) do sometimes promote size. There's not alot of evidence out there saying it helps grow breasts, but some people have said otherwise from personal experiences.
Dr.DUke's Essentials (book, a renowned herbalist named Dr. James Duke, believes it is sits at the top as the most mastogenic herb on out there, since it contains a high concentration of phytoestrogen)
http://www.breastfeedingonline.com/fenugreek.shtml
http://www.holistic-herbalist.com/breast...ction.html
http://www.mothernature.com/Library/Book.../54/14.cfm
Red Clover Extract (860 mg to 1720 mg a day): RC is said to have the most numbers of isoflavones in its compound, possibly more so than Pueraria Mirifica. And as we know, isoflavones do exhibit many estrogenic activities in the human body. But, I don't think accelerating breast density is one of them.
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-122581719.html
Wild Yam Root (850 to 1700 mg a day): Wild Yam as we all know by now, doesn't convert to estrogen, progesterone, or any other type of hormone in the body. But, it does cause estrogenic effects with the high levels diosgenin, like Fenugreek. Also it is noted in PDR and the natural medicine database, that wild yam did cause mammary tissue growth in ovariectomized rats after 15 days of dosage at 20 mg/40 mg each. Though, no studies been observed in humans, as indivduals have personally said it has worked through testimonies. Thought would help the boobies come out, hey if it works in rat, why shouldn't it work on me in enough dosage.
Hops (620 mg to 1650 mg): Hops is very much known for its sedative and drowsiness effects, and the people of the past who used it (and those who currently use it) know what they are talking about. The herb can be very sedative and sleep inducing, a specialty for anyone suffering from insomnia. It also has a chemical known as 8-prenylnaringenin, which is said to have the partial potency of estradiol...but only 0.2% to 20% compared to the powerful hormone. Still, remember in so many dosages (couple of hundred or thousand milligrams, it could produce significant results.) In fact, I found a transgender woman who runs her own website that claims that she was able to produce significant results within 4 months by taking about 7,500 milligrams of hops a day (I would do that, but I am taking to many other products). She said her breasts grew, testicles shrunk, and she actually replied to my email, a very nice lady. Here the link is below the first two:
http://www.migraine101.com/phyto.htm
http://www.drugs.com/npp/hops.html
http://thor.prohosting.com/tgonhops/irenes_story.htm
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=1282177
Kava (300 mg to 1200 mg-on odd days): I actually started taking this for something else, more energy and better brain functioning. But, I later found out that, the Kava is actually a dopamine inhibitor in small doses and promotes higher prolactin levels. Which works for me...Also, I found a study that showed that as dopamine inhibitor it has the potential to allow mammoplasia. It would make sense, because dopamine inhibits prolactin levels. There are even Kava creams on the market, which are promoted as breast enhancement.
http://www.acog.org/from_home/publicatio...477fla.htm (This article has been posted several times).
I will try Saw Pal later, if there isn't any improvement or for the fact that there might be gains and it will be able to keep them from possibly sagging or deteriorating like a number of people have said. While, it is also testosterone blocker and inhibits androgens. Also, I might use pueraria with it, if I don't like the size that might have a few weeks or months.
Then I think I might top everything off with bovine ovary, since phytoestrogenic effects are very fleeting and can return the body to what it was or worse decrease in bust size.
Growing Pains: Hot flashes, especially the mornings here and there. But that's good thing for me, since I rarely have them in the first place because of body's estrogen that has been apparently abducted by UFO and taken all hopes of breast growth with them. Nipples can ache on odd days, but when it is massage time ... it can be intensely fun. I get gas from the red clovers and fenugreek, sometimes. My hair in some parts of my body doesn't seem to be growing as fast, since I shaved a few days before starting my programing. I would even find fathomable to say that one of these herbs are good for hair inhibiting (probably red clover, hops, or black cohosh) or reducing androgens in your body.
http://georgiahealthinfo.gov/cms/node/127180
http://womynweb.com/herb2.htm
