[NotSoBusty]

Congrats on the growth, Rosance!! Everyone slacks once in awhile, but at least you have permanent, noticeable growth! What an inspiration!

[Rosance]

Aww, thank you! I feel like PM is barely starting to actually kick in or the topical and get are doing something. I have been experiencing lots of aches lately. It has been like 3 or 4 days in a row. My aches have never been that constant! My goal is some sort of D. You are not going to believe it, but, I do not even know what I want. I just know that I want more...haha

[starlite911]

Hey I'm new around here but I've been reading around for awhile.
I'm on a birth control pill (lo-loestrin) and I rarely--if ever--have periods.
I talked to my doctor about this and she said it was perfectly fine.
I am planning on starting PM very soon. Because I don't have periods, I was wondering if I still had to cycle or not. Thanks guys!

I'm 19, 5'5", and ~125 lbs.
No kids, small 32B (probably 34A but I refuse)

[Quest4boobs]

I'm on yasmin and rarely get periods. I don't cycle, but I take a relatively low dose of pm (600-700 mg). Our hormones don't fluctuate the way they do in women with more natural cycles. BC significantly lowers LH and FSH production and inhibits mid cycle LH surge, we don't have follicular and luteal phases. We don't have to sync with hormonal cycling, so why cycle our pm?
Just watch out for symptoms of estrogen dominance, etc. Listen to your body. All birth control pills mantain a VERY high level of progesterone in the body, to prevent ovulation. So I use estrogen to enhance my breasts, while trying to make sure I am not including so much as to interrupt my BC-induced hormonal equilibrium.
I'd be very interested in what others have to say though.

[Rosance]

Well, the last day of my PM cycle was on the 12 of this month (May 2012). Starting on May 13, 2012, I decided to do a liver cleanse with milk thistle and lots of water. On only one day, maybe two, I will drink two tablespoons of Olive Oil followed by 2 cups of cinnamon tea and an orange. I experienced something unpleasant during the last two nights of the PM cycle. I woke up many times during these nights with abdomen pain, almost like I had gas but I didn't feel like it was coming out any time soon. The feeling it produced is similar to that when you have to pee really bad when you wake up (like a pinching feeling) mixed up with gas pain; this sounds sort of like indigestion. It was so uncomfortable and something I have never experienced. The weird thing is that it took place when I would lay down to sleep. I didn't change anything in my diet or take any supplement I had not been taking before. I am afraid it might be something to do with my liver or gallbladder. So for the next 10 days I am off of everything (except PM cream and Noogling). I will be taking Milk thistle. I am wondering if expired PM could have caused this because I cannot seem to find the expiring dates on Siriporn bottles...maybe it's just me. Anyone who has bought Siriporn PM, are you able to locate the expiring date? If this is the case, expiration of PM, I am contacting Siriporn and telling them that they sent me an expired supply and expect them to send me one with a date on it.
Other than this, I feel so happy to be back to noogling every day, sometimes I even massage. So I guess I am kind of going back on track thanks to this.
Another thing. I am definitely buying a PC cream because I am sick and tired of estrogen dominance symptoms. Headaches are pissing me off, they last more than half of the day. AND they are not the friendly ones, the ones that go "hey look I'm a headache ". They are the ones that go, "WE ARE A HEADACHE CLAIM THIS OUR BRAIN !" I am also tired of being tired. I do not sleep well, I take a long time to fall asleep. And then I have depression at times; tend to feel like life is worthless and that I am hopeless. SOoooo, I am buying a PC cream but planning on putting it on my wrist because I would like to use my PM cream everyday. I do not know if we can mix them...that would not be smart right? I am considering either Source Naturals or Now Foods; these both are paraben free . I see Emerita is one of the highest rated but dam...it's expensive
I have heard that some people feel like their boobs shrink...what is up with that? Do they really shrink?!
I am also buying one for my mom who has REALLY bad hot flashes

[Rosance]

NOT TOO MENTION, MY HAIRLOSS!!!!!!!

[starlite911]

Got my PM cream and pills in the mail today! So excited to start using I'm going to browse around for some sort of FAQ, but any advice right of the start? How long til you began to notice results?

[starlite911]

Sorry for so many questions! But also if I'm going to take PM and Fenugreek in various amounts throughout the course of the month, is it okay to take them at the same time of day or should I space it out? Thanks!

[Rosance]

My number one advice is that more is not better (considering PM dosages). I have been taking the recommended dosages and have not had any problems with stalling and such. I have read lots of times that if you take a lot of PM you will actually not grow. It took me about two months to feel a difference, not big but still difference. From there on, the difference has been gradual; continuing at a slow rate like with hair growth; it grows slowly. When I was taking fenugreek with PM, I was taking them at different times because I personally experienced low blood sugar when taking fenugreek without food. Herbs are known to be much effective when they are absorbed by themselves, that means no food. But fenugreek is known to lower blood sugar levels. We get sugar from what we eat. If you have an empty stomach, the sugar you have available is the one stored in the liver. You take fenugreek without food and it can have the effect of lowering the effect of the stored glucose (sugar) from the liver. If you eat and then take fenugreek, you will affect the sugar you eat but will still have a back up in the liver. This highly depends on many things: the dosage of fenugreek, your body, your glucose levels... Unfortunately, my state was not in agreement with me taking it without food. Therefore, I was taking PM before meal and fenugreek after.

[starlite911]

thanks for the advice