20-10-2013, 17:30
(This post was last modified: 20-10-2013, 17:42 by TibetanPrincess.)
(20-10-2013, 00:58)timarie Wrote:(19-10-2013, 22:47)tibetan113 Wrote: I was worried about temps being hypo and all. My underweight and temps were low, working against me. But guess what, a little whey and progesterone monitoring took care of that! I grew within 3 months of taking BO. Very surprised.
Even though there's merit in higher temps = good for growth, I think its a cop-out for BB as when a person doesn't grow, they've got something to point out as to why.
"Well, how where your temps? Where they up high enough? Low thyroid could prevent your potential gains."
Well, I'm proof anyway...
Thanks for that T, I was just going to PM you about this! It makes sense that they would use it as a cop-out, because it really doesn't make ANY sense for a woman to have >98.1 degrees during her follicular cycle, which is why I was skeptical of any recommendations to take something to raise temps to begin with. But I guess after the few websites I read about the temps needing to be at least 97.6, then that was when I started to get concerned.
As for whey, you and I both know that I get ENOUGH of that. Yet, my BBTs have always been pretty low. Could it really be a deficiency in iodine? How did your Progesterone help (did it raise your BBT or improve the effectiveness of BO without effecting your BBT)?
I LEARNED SINCE MY ADRENALS HAVE NO TO VERY LOW CORT OUTPUT, I DONT MAKE ENOUGH PROGESTERONE AND SO I WAS ADVISED SUPPLEMENTAL FROM MY DOCTOR. SO ADDING SUPPLEMENTAL AS WELL AS WHAT BO OFFERS, I WAS ABLE TO GROW. SO YOU MAY NOT NEED EXTRA SUPPLEMENTAL P SUPPLEMENTS UNLESS YOU ARE AS BAD OFF LIKE WHEN I STARTED. BO MAY STIMULATE YOUR OWN PRODUCTION AND MAY BE ENOUGH. THAT'S WHY I ADVISE AT LEAST 3 MONTHS IN, TO EVALUATE HOW BO HAS AFFECTED YOUR OUTPUT. TESTS CAN BE VERY HELPFUL AS IT CAN TELL YOU WHAT AND HOW MUCH YOU NEED. SO MAYBE YOU CAN RETEST ALL OF YOUR HORMONES AT THE 3 OR 4TH MONTH MARK. THAT WAY YOU WILL KNOW WHAT TO ADD.
MY TEMPS DID NOT CHANGE TILL ONLY 3 MONTHS AGO (WHICH WAS HOTTEST SUMMER MONTH HERE AND MY LAST RECENT GROWTH SPURT), THAT WAS MONTHS AFTER I GAINED TO MY BMI AND DID A LITTLE HEALING. IT TOOK A LONG TIME. IT DOES NOT HAPPEN OVER NIGHT. I ACTUALLY WAS NOT EXPECTING IT. I STILL HAVE COLD HANDS AND FEET BUT ITS NOT AS BAD AS BEFORE.
I DEF SEE YOU GET ENOUGH PROTEIN AND SINCE YOU ARE NOT UNDERWEIGHT, ITS CLEAR ITS SOMETHING ELSE GIVING YOU LOWER THAN AVERAGE BASAL TEMPS IN FOLL. SO, IF YOU ARE TIRED THESE DAYS, LOOK AT YOUR ADRENAL AND THRYOID OUTPUT. TEST YOUR CORTISOL LEVELS IF YOU HAVEN'T RECENTLY. TEST YOUR REVERSE T4/T3, FREE T4/T3, TSH AND HASHIMOTOS ANTIBODIES JUST INCASE.
I KNOW FENUGREEK MADE ME TIRED AND FUCKED UP MY SUGAR BALANCE. I WAS ALREADY HYPOGLYCEMIC AND IT MADE IT WORSE. MAYBE YOU HAVE LOW CORTISOL DURING SOME PART OF THE DAY (WHEN YOU ARE MOST TIRED) AND IF THAT'S SO, IT AFFECTS INSULIN SENSITIVITY, ANDROGEN/PROGESTERONE BALANCE (WHICH WOULD AFFECT THYROID HORMONES,TEMPS.)
ARE YOU RESUMING FENU? LOW TEMPS CAN BE A SIGN OF LIVER NOT FUNCTIONING AS IT SHOULD. WHICH T HORMONES GET CONVERTED FROM 4 TO 3 IN ITS ACTIVE FORM.
If lower BBT during the follicular phase don't really do anything (let's face it: it is not the low BBTs that really effect the effectiveness of BO. The low BBTs signify a possibly poor functioning thyroid which, in turn, effects the effectiveness of BO) and it is just a poor thyroid that is what directly effects the effectiveness of BO, then I suppose I should not be worried about it unless I do, in fact, have a problem with my thyroid (which I am guessing I don't, because I don't have an issue with weight gain).
Am I correct when I say that it is not high BBTs that result in good growth; rather, it is a healthy thyroid that results in good growth, correct? And BBTs are simply just indicative of a thyroid's functioning. [bOr[/b] do the BBTs actually effect the effectiveness of BO directly in some way?
YES, I BELIEVE GROWTH IS BETTER(FASTER) IN A WARMER BODY. A WARMER BODY HAS HEALTHY PROGESTERONE AND THYROID LEVELS (GOOD LIVER FUNCTION TOO).
SO THYROID HORMONES AFFECT EVERY SINGLE CELL IN THE BODY. SO MUCH THAT IF YOUR THYROID IS OFF, YOUR FACE LOOKS DIFFERENT AND BODY. SO THINK ATOMIC CHANGES.
BO CAN WORK FOR YOU AS IT HAS FOR ME, BUT MAKE SURE YOU ARE HEALING YOUR WHOLE ENDOCRINE SYSTEM AT THE SAME TIME IF YOU SUSPECT THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH YOUR ADRENALS, PITUITARY OR THYROID.