[EllaC]

Well I definitely get down on myself once my swelling goes down, but even then I cannot get too upset because I have definitely grown since I first started, like A LOT. I just get great swelling near my period and a bit after but once all the hormones drop, it becomes shocking each month. I was baggy in a lot of my bras before NBE. Now I've had to toss a lot of these same bras out because they are just too small for me any time of the month! Def gonna do comparison photos to show, even though it will be hard for me to see. I have to start comparing myself at my smallest now!

Well there ya go, you said it yourself! Youve grown alot, nothing to be down about. Seriously if I get anywhere near you il be over the moon! Ps pics below... NICE!!!

I'm not sure how much time you have to yourself bc of your husband and kid. I probably have a lot more alone time than you (I live alone). My point is I think you CAN and WILL get to where I'm at, it will probably take a little longer though because you don't have as much alone time as I do.

I have been far more okay with my alone time since NBE. Before my social life was far more packed, but now I am on a MISSION and it feels sooooo good! Think of all the hours one would put in making money for breast implants! I am taking those hours and growing them myself for essentially free instead.

When I put my mind on something, I become determined.

good on you, that's why you've done soo well!

time - bugger all jen bugger all lol

I sneak up early in the morning and get a noggle session in! then luckily enough I have an hour or 2 to myself before I grab the little one from school which I am now (thanks to your advice) spending noggling and massaging as well ! that said im very chilled and forgetfull in nature and the amount of times I realised "oh **** I left the noggleberry on the couch" and had to run out and hide it before the family find it ha ha... happened ONE too many times now! the day my hubby finds it... well im not sure how I'l explain that one away lol!

I see! Are you a stay-at-home mom? If so, cheers to having that free time! I HEAR YA with being caught, OMG. Huuuggggeee fear of mine and yes I've had close calls too. I don't even want to think about if that happened, so I'm not going to even put that thought-energy into the world!

I work but I get home early so time for quick noogle and dr oz!!

In fact my little one caught me once and ran around for a good for a good few hours yelling "mummas got a boobie pump! It goes up and down and up and down" ......
Needless to say... NEVA noogled again while she was home!!!

Then hubby found it one day and picked it up and said " what the hell is this??" (I nearly died I might add lol..)
So I just said.. " oh thats just my old breastfeeding pump"!

Lucky for me hes a naieve young thing and actually believed it ha ha

[Jenniferlove]

In the first of those three pics they look perfectly matched! It's in the third one that righty seems to hang lower than lefty.
Yeah, it's getting to be like The Truman Show for EVERYONE these days!! Partly thanks to tabloid rags and shows of that ilk where we simply HAVE to know EXACTLY what goes on in Kim Kardashian's underwear EVERY single day, it's getting/gotten to the point where you can't even pick yer nose without it being all over the web!!
Well, having to work full time and getting hardly any sleep and dealing with a number of writing and recording projects PLUS having to take care of mom since she had her stroke and my brother killed himself last Dec., which means I get NO help taking care of mom, I just don't HAVE the time to grow the girls. :-(

You are in a band, correct? I am curious about this as I have seen you write about it in other threads and also name-drop many GREAT bands which tells me you have great taste in music. Would love to hear your music!

I am sooooo sorry about your brother. I cannot even imagine how things have been for you. We are very grateful to have you on here. I see you being a mentor to people. Thank you for that.

[Jenniferlove]

I work but I get home early so time for quick noogle and dr oz!!

In fact my little one caught me once and ran around for a good for a good few hours yelling "mummas got a boobie pump! It goes up and down and up and down" ......
Needless to say... NEVA noogled again while she was home!!!

Then hubby found it one day and picked it up and said " what the hell is this??" (I nearly died I might add lol..)
So I just said.. " oh thats just my old breastfeeding pump"!

Lucky for me hes a naieve young thing and actually believed it ha ha

OMG! How old is she? I would have MADE her keep her mouth shut, ah! Thank God you've been pregnant so you can just use the breast pump card!

[Missed Miss]

In the first of those three pics they look perfectly matched! It's in the third one that righty seems to hang lower than lefty.
Yeah, it's getting to be like The Truman Show for EVERYONE these days!! Partly thanks to tabloid rags and shows of that ilk where we simply HAVE to know EXACTLY what goes on in Kim Kardashian's underwear EVERY single day, it's getting/gotten to the point where you can't even pick yer nose without it being all over the web!!
Well, having to work full time and getting hardly any sleep and dealing with a number of writing and recording projects PLUS having to take care of mom since she had her stroke and my brother killed himself last Dec., which means I get NO help taking care of mom, I just don't HAVE the time to grow the girls. :-(

You are in a band, correct? I am curious about this as I have seen you write about it in other threads and also name-drop many GREAT bands which tells me you have great taste in music. Would love to hear your music!

I am sooooo sorry about your brother. I cannot even imagine how things have been for you. We are very grateful to have you on here. I see you being a mentor to people. Thank you for that.

Well, I was, for 25 years, but we broke up in `05 and then my singer died (cancer from agent orange) 3 years ago, so, no chance of us ever having a reunion. :*-( I'm still looking to get into another band because I REALLY miss being on stage!!!!
Thank you! My tastes in music are VERY wide and varied!! Most people just stick with whatever era's music they grew up with, I like nearly all kinds of music and having 51,000 records in my collection tends to prove that! My oldest records are about 135 years old. Anytime you wanna talk music with me, just go for it!!
We're on YouTube. One of my roadies posted a bunch of our videos from a gig we did at The Decade in the late `80's. (A LOT of famous bands have played there over the years!! I think it may have been one of the last places Stevie Ray Vaughn played, either that or he was due to play there again but he died before that.) Sadly, I didn't have time before the gig to get my usual gig clothes on, so, I just had to play in the t-shirt and shorts I had on that day. Normally, I'd wear a leotard, pantyhose and a short black skater/scooter skirt. When you go to YT, look up BabylonKid88 and look for his Thin White Line videos. I'm not sure if he posted our "Strange Glances" video, but that's up, too. And the guy that shot the Decade videos posted another he shot for a song we did called, "Clap Trap", but, you'll have to look for it under, "Clap Track", because he spelled it wrong. In a few of the scenes I AM in a skirt, pantyhose and black leo, but, you don't get to actually see anything but the leo. This was shot 2 years after the Decade videos, so, my hair is short because I shaved it in protest to my sister marrying an asshole in `89 and that's as long as it had gotten by the time these were shot. A fan and friend of the band recently sent me video of an outdoor gig we did once (the night I met a few of the people that would soon become Rusted Root) and there IS footage of me walking around in my skirt at the beginning of, "Flowers Of April" (There's a long intro before I start playing drums.), but, I just have to figure out how to post it on YT, I've never done that before.
Thank you for the condolences on my brother. We're not even sure why he did it! There was no suicide note, but there were at least three witnesses that say he just parked his car on the bridge, got out and jumped over with no hesitation! And, from what we've been able to tell, he'd been planning it since at least July. Mom was hit the hardest over it.
Thank you very much again for the gratitude of my being here and, I like to help others if I can, so, if I think I can help in some way, I'll at least try! Sadly, a few of us here don't appreciate it much.
What bands did I mention that you like?

[Jenniferlove]

Well, I was, for 25 years, but we broke up in `05 and then my singer died (cancer from agent orange) 3 years ago, so, no chance of us ever having a reunion. :*-( I'm still looking to get into another band because I REALLY miss being on stage!!!!
Thank you! My tastes in music are VERY wide and varied!! Most people just stick with whatever era's music they grew up with, I like nearly all kinds of music and having 51,000 records in my collection tends to prove that! My oldest records are about 135 years old. Anytime you wanna talk music with me, just go for it!!
We're on YouTube. One of my roadies posted a bunch of our videos from a gig we did at The Decade in the late `80's. (A LOT of famous bands have played there over the years!! I think it may have been one of the last places Stevie Ray Vaughn played, either that or he was due to play there again but he died before that.) Sadly, I didn't have time before the gig to get my usual gig clothes on, so, I just had to play in the t-shirt and shorts I had on that day. Normally, I'd wear a leotard, pantyhose and a short black skater/scooter skirt. When you go to YT, look up BabylonKid88 and look for his Thin White Line videos. I'm not sure if he posted our "Strange Glances" video, but that's up, too. And the guy that shot the Decade videos posted another he shot for a song we did called, "Clap Trap", but, you'll have to look for it under, "Clap Track", because he spelled it wrong. In a few of the scenes I AM in a skirt, pantyhose and black leo, but, you don't get to actually see anything but the leo. This was shot 2 years after the Decade videos, so, my hair is short because I shaved it in protest to my sister marrying an asshole in `89 and that's as long as it had gotten by the time these were shot. A fan and friend of the band recently sent me video of an outdoor gig we did once (the night I met a few of the people that would soon become Rusted Root) and there IS footage of me walking around in my skirt at the beginning of, "Flowers Of April" (There's a long intro before I start playing drums.), but, I just have to figure out how to post it on YT, I've never done that before.
Thank you for the condolences on my brother. We're not even sure why he did it! There was no suicide note, but there were at least three witnesses that say he just parked his car on the bridge, got out and jumped over with no hesitation! And, from what we've been able to tell, he'd been planning it since at least July. Mom was hit the hardest over it.
Thank you very much again for the gratitude of my being here and, I like to help others if I can, so, if I think I can help in some way, I'll at least try! Sadly, a few of us here don't appreciate it much.
What bands did I mention that you like?

Was able to find your band, there are many videos of you guys on youtube. WOW, you guys were good, what a sound! That singer, man! I had a feeling there was something big about you. The way you wrote, I just had this hunch to ask you more about your music.

I don't remember what bands you were writing about a bit back but I remember the last I saw you mention was Tangerine Dream, whom I love. Made me want to inquire more.

51,000 records holy shit!! You are awesome.

[Missed Miss]

Well, I was, for 25 years, but we broke up in `05 and then my singer died (cancer from agent orange) 3 years ago, so, no chance of us ever having a reunion. :*-( I'm still looking to get into another band because I REALLY miss being on stage!!!!
Thank you! My tastes in music are VERY wide and varied!! Most people just stick with whatever era's music they grew up with, I like nearly all kinds of music and having 51,000 records in my collection tends to prove that! My oldest records are about 135 years old. Anytime you wanna talk music with me, just go for it!!
We're on YouTube. One of my roadies posted a bunch of our videos from a gig we did at The Decade in the late `80's. (A LOT of famous bands have played there over the years!! I think it may have been one of the last places Stevie Ray Vaughn played, either that or he was due to play there again but he died before that.) Sadly, I didn't have time before the gig to get my usual gig clothes on, so, I just had to play in the t-shirt and shorts I had on that day. Normally, I'd wear a leotard, pantyhose and a short black skater/scooter skirt. When you go to YT, look up BabylonKid88 and look for his Thin White Line videos. I'm not sure if he posted our "Strange Glances" video, but that's up, too. And the guy that shot the Decade videos posted another he shot for a song we did called, "Clap Trap", but, you'll have to look for it under, "Clap Track", because he spelled it wrong. In a few of the scenes I AM in a skirt, pantyhose and black leo, but, you don't get to actually see anything but the leo. This was shot 2 years after the Decade videos, so, my hair is short because I shaved it in protest to my sister marrying an asshole in `89 and that's as long as it had gotten by the time these were shot. A fan and friend of the band recently sent me video of an outdoor gig we did once (the night I met a few of the people that would soon become Rusted Root) and there IS footage of me walking around in my skirt at the beginning of, "Flowers Of April" (There's a long intro before I start playing drums.), but, I just have to figure out how to post it on YT, I've never done that before.
Thank you for the condolences on my brother. We're not even sure why he did it! There was no suicide note, but there were at least three witnesses that say he just parked his car on the bridge, got out and jumped over with no hesitation! And, from what we've been able to tell, he'd been planning it since at least July. Mom was hit the hardest over it.
Thank you very much again for the gratitude of my being here and, I like to help others if I can, so, if I think I can help in some way, I'll at least try! Sadly, a few of us here don't appreciate it much.
What bands did I mention that you like?

Was able to find your band, there are many videos of you guys on youtube. WOW, you guys were good, what a sound! That singer, man! I had a feeling there was something big about you. The way you wrote, I just had this hunch to ask you more about your music.

I don't remember what bands you were writing about a bit back but I remember the last I saw you mention was Tangerine Dream, whom I love. Made me want to inquire more.

51,000 records holy shit!! You are awesome.

Wow! Thanks!! There have been so many people over the decades that not only love the music but love Bob's voice, too!! We were practically superstars in Youngstown, Ohio! Strangely, here where we are, 90 minutes east of Y-town, we had hardly any major fan-base! We'd get a lot of people at the Upstage gigs, but, otherwise, even though we'd played as much as half a block away from The Upstage (The Decade was only 1 block away!), we'd still not get very people!!
I don't remember what other bands I was on about, either, but I'd guess they'd be Beatles, King Crimson, Fishbone, Primus, XTC, Super Furry Animals, Prince, etc.. Nice that you like TD!! One of my faves!! I've been listening to them every night while going to bed for the past month or so. I'm playing, "Stratosfear", tonight! I have at least 60 albums by them and TONS of live concert recordings. Over 161 hours of TD music...so far!! We should talk!!
I've been collecting records since I was 4. Thanks again for endowing me with awesomeness! ;-)

[BonitaDDs]

Wow they look great you inspired me to get my noogleberry when I go back for Christmas

[Jenniferlove]

Wow! Thanks!! There have been so many people over the decades that not only love the music but love Bob's voice, too!! We were practically superstars in Youngstown, Ohio! Strangely, here where we are, 90 minutes east of Y-town, we had hardly any major fan-base! We'd get a lot of people at the Upstage gigs, but, otherwise, even though we'd played as much as half a block away from The Upstage (The Decade was only 1 block away!), we'd still not get very people!!
I don't remember what other bands I was on about, either, but I'd guess they'd be Beatles, King Crimson, Fishbone, Primus, XTC, Super Furry Animals, Prince, etc.. Nice that you like TD!! One of my faves!! I've been listening to them every night while going to bed for the past month or so. I'm playing, "Stratosfear", tonight! I have at least 60 albums by them and TONS of live concert recordings. Over 161 hours of TD music...so far!! We should talk!!
I've been collecting records since I was 4. Thanks again for endowing me with awesomeness! ;-)

WOW! I had no clue they even had so many albums! I think I need to begin delving much deeper, starting with Youtube. Oh how I love yt. There are so many crazy music videos from some of my favorite artists that I never knew existed. Been watching Bowie's videos lately. Fun stuff!

[Jenniferlove]

Mid-month update:

I have been able to upkeep my massage and noogling almost daily since my period ended and they have not gone down this month *crosses fingers, knocks on wood, etc. etc.* I HOPE they stay this large! I am off all herbs and my skin is looking much better as well as my emotions more balanced. I feel it's far too early to really weigh in if the herbs are unnecessary though, so I will wait until December before I re-introduce any of them again. Like I was writing before, if I don't need the herbs I will save a lot of money, less stress, less acne, less strange stomach weight-gain and less RISKS, which is the most important part. I am not wanting to increase my risks of breast cancer if I don't need to! I was on herbs-only for several years with no actual growth. That should say enough. I would have slight swelling but now that I know about luteal swelling, it was probably just that.

On birth control I grew large too and then it all went away once I got off. I really wonder if the hormones we put into ourselves are just creating temporary swelling for as long as we're on them UNLESS we use other methods too. This is why I noogle and massage. It is my attempt to expand tissue instead of hoping that the herbs will miraculously make me grow. I tested hormones for years, literally (since I was a teen on and off bc), and after all the ups and downs I was still left with tiny breasts when I got off them.

Anyway, I am hoping that I will grow more this month! The photos will tell! About 15 more days.

[EllaC]

Mid-month update:

I have been able to upkeep my massage and noogling almost daily since my period ended and they have not gone down this month *crosses fingers, knocks on wood, etc. etc.* I HOPE they stay this large! I am off all herbs and my skin is looking much better as well as my emotions more balanced. I feel it's far too early to really weigh in if the herbs are unnecessary though, so I will wait until December before I re-introduce any of them again. Like I was writing before, if I don't need the herbs I will save a lot of money, less stress, less acne, less strange stomach weight-gain and less RISKS, which is the most important part. I am not wanting to increase my risks of breast cancer if I don't need to! I was on herbs-only for several years with no actual growth. That should say enough. I would have slight swelling but now that I know about luteal swelling, it was probably just that.

On birth control I grew large too and then it all went away once I got off. I really wonder if the hormones we put into ourselves are just creating temporary swelling for as long as we're on them UNLESS we use other methods too. This is why I noogle and massage. It is my attempt to expand tissue instead of hoping that the herbs will miraculously make me grow. I tested hormones for years, literally (since I was a teen on and off bc), and after all the ups and downs I was still left with tiny breasts when I got off them.

Anyway, I am hoping that I will grow more this month! The photos will tell! About 15 more days.

Its looking promising for you so far then
Out of interest what herbs were you on for years with no growth? I dont believe ive asked you that one yet? Just so i know if im wasting my time! :p
Ps im measuring close to 35 now from 34! And not during swelling time.. cut right back on noogling, scared myself off it for the time being!
Anyways look 4ward to your updates anyway