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Hi timarie. Sure, I can look some stuff up for you. The second picture is the one I have. However, the one I bought was sold through a rep in my industry. So I know it is of good value. But I am wondering if microdermabrasion might be a better way for you to go. When I worked for a dr they would do this tx on scars but the bad part is you have to actually make the scar bleed. I know you can get a personal unit on eBay pretty cheap. I am finding the time master is working better for plumping and penetrating products better into the skin. I use it for the penetration of pm extract in a gel. Let me call my rep and see what her opinion is on the best way to treat scars. So many options out their. Even an acid peel would help before hand. But here is the other problem. All this causes a temporary injury to the skin inducing inflammation, so you could see it get better but in the long run would make it thinner. Any type of aggressive exfoliation thins the skin causing temporary swelling and inflammation. When doing this on your face you look great, plumped up, etc but after about 2 weeks it all goes away and you will occurs more damage and thinning. I know the scars are not on your face... Just saying.
I will get back to ya this week with better information.

Thank you! But as for microdermabrasion, I already have a microdermabrasion home kit. I have only used it a few times, and I imagine that it might "buff out" some creases and make some scars a little less noticeable as well as increase the collagen production in the area, but I don't think it encourages the same amount of healing as does the needle-form of mesotherapy. But you bring up a good point... the Time Master (from the way you have described it to me) seems to be comparable to microdermabrasion when it comes to stimulating hte area into producing more collagen. The advantage that the Time Master has over microdermabrasion is electroporation (so that one might add their own extra collagen or other healing products into the dermis), and the advantage that microdermabrasion has over the Time Master is the buffing effect. It seems that neither of these are a strong match for healing deep scar tissue such as stretch marks, as you mentioned the Time Master is probably not the best for scars. I will be interested to hear what your rep has to say about all of this! Thanks so much!

PS__ I found it very interesting how you mentioned about the acid peel, and how these treatments make the skin thinner. Thinner skin results in skin that is more likely to be fragile and damageable, and wrinkles down the road. What is interesting is that the mesotherapy with needles actually works by making your skin a little thicker, isn't that correct? I have read that from a few sources already and that makes sense to make the skin less prone to wrinkles... but a part of me wonders if it would be thicker enough for it to be noticeably different, such as a callous? I have watched youtube videos and none of the users of the dermaroller products seem to look calloused... actually it is the opposite... just firm, taut skin. It is interesting, nonetheless!

Thanks again for your help!

Hi timarie, your so right. Micro is not enough you would need dermabrasion which is done in the office under a topical numbing agent. Looks like the best effective way is the fraxel. Of course depending on the type of skin and damage you would need around 4 or more.
About the skin needling is yes, I have heard it is suppose to thicken the skin from underneath in the cellular layer. However, all these modalities cause inflammation which leads to cell death.
Http://www.amazon.com/Transform-Your-Skin-Naturally-Groundbreaking/dp/193529735Xad dr Ben Johnson's book.
This is his philosophy about exfolation causing inflammation and cell damage.