[surferjoe2007]

Estradiol can lead to breast cancer and anti-androgen drugs also have serious side effects. I wouldn't jump into them just yet. If I get the time maybe I can dig up some sources, but here you hear about "I felt faint" or "my period got irregular". Elsewhere you hear "she got cancer" or "his/her normal hormonal function got completely destroyed". Progesterone OTOH isn't that dangerous AFAIK.

Here's your original program: 1000 mg PM 1/4th the time, 6000 mg MSM + vitamin C, small amount of spearmint tea, not sure about deer velvet, insignificant amounts of other herbs and nutrients.

1000 mg of one herb is not the same as 1000 mg of another. For some you need 50 mg and for others 50 grams. I'm a bit amazed that people wil jump straight to 1000 mg PM but are too afraid to use more than 2,000-3,000 mg of anything else even when they are far weaker.

It's not surprising that all estrogen and almost no progesterone would have its limits. I think your new program may work but it's because of the progesterone cream not the other drugs. PM+PC would too and it'd be a lot safer. If you want something extreme here you go:

• Estrogen: 1000+ mg PM. Cycled. Optional (minor but helpful): 1 red clover capsule on non-PM days.
  
• Progesterone: Progesterone cream. Cycled on different days.
  
• Estrogen/progesterone/insulin amplifier: 2500 mg 50% saponin (or 50% fenuside) fenugreek extract. Or sprout 1/4 cup whole seeds. Every day.
  
• Anti-androgen: 320+ mg saw palmetto *extract* (80+% fatty acids) + 2 cups tea from 10 grams (2x heaping teaspoon) dry spearmint (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6376599.stm). That's typically 4 tea bags per cup. SPE to block DHT formation, spearmint to reduce free testosterone. Every day.
  
• Collagen: 6,000 mg MSM. A collagen supplement is actually a big step down. Vitamin C would be nice but a little like a piece of fruit is plenty. Every day.
  
• HGH: 5,000 mg L-arginine. Every day.
  
• Butt: 10 grams maca or 200+ mg 0.6% glucosinolates maca extract. Every day.
  

Greater amounts of PM, PC or FGE have greater effects but can also cause more trouble, while the others don't make as much difference in higher amounts but also don't cause much trouble. For example I'd suggest 1/4th the above FG to start then use more if you feel totally fine.