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I LEARNED SINCE MY ADRENALS HAVE NO TO VERY LOW CORT OUTPUT, I DONT MAKE ENOUGH PROGESTERONE AND SO I WAS ADVISED SUPPLEMENTAL FROM MY DOCTOR. SO ADDING SUPPLEMENTAL AS WELL AS WHAT BO OFFERS, I WAS ABLE TO GROW. SO YOU MAY NOT NEED EXTRA SUPPLEMENTAL P SUPPLEMENTS UNLESS YOU ARE AS BAD OFF LIKE WHEN I STARTED. BO MAY STIMULATE YOUR OWN PRODUCTION AND MAY BE ENOUGH. THAT'S WHY I ADVISE AT LEAST 3 MONTHS IN, TO EVALUATE HOW BO HAS AFFECTED YOUR OUTPUT. TESTS CAN BE VERY HELPFUL AS IT CAN TELL YOU WHAT AND HOW MUCH YOU NEED. SO MAYBE YOU CAN RETEST ALL OF YOUR HORMONES AT THE 3 OR 4TH MONTH MARK. THAT WAY YOU WILL KNOW WHAT TO ADD.

MY TEMPS DID NOT CHANGE TILL ONLY 3 MONTHS AGO (WHICH WAS HOTTEST SUMMER MONTH HERE AND MY LAST RECENT GROWTH SPURT), THAT WAS MONTHS AFTER I GAINED TO MY BMI AND DID A LITTLE HEALING. IT TOOK A LONG TIME. IT DOES NOT HAPPEN OVER NIGHT. I ACTUALLY WAS NOT EXPECTING IT. I STILL HAVE COLD HANDS AND FEET BUT ITS NOT AS BAD AS BEFORE.

I DEF SEE YOU GET ENOUGH PROTEIN AND SINCE YOU ARE NOT UNDERWEIGHT, ITS CLEAR ITS SOMETHING ELSE GIVING YOU LOWER THAN AVERAGE BASAL TEMPS IN FOLL. SO, IF YOU ARE TIRED THESE DAYS, LOOK AT YOUR ADRENAL AND THRYOID OUTPUT. TEST YOUR CORTISOL LEVELS IF YOU HAVEN'T RECENTLY. TEST YOUR REVERSE T4/T3, FREE T4/T3, TSH AND HASHIMOTOS ANTIBODIES JUST INCASE.

I KNOW FENUGREEK MADE ME TIRED AND FUCKED UP MY SUGAR BALANCE. I WAS ALREADY HYPOGLYCEMIC AND IT MADE IT WORSE. MAYBE YOU HAVE LOW CORTISOL DURING SOME PART OF THE DAY (WHEN YOU ARE MOST TIRED) AND IF THAT'S SO, IT AFFECTS INSULIN SENSITIVITY, ANDROGEN/PROGESTERONE BALANCE (WHICH WOULD AFFECT THYROID HORMONES,TEMPS.)

ARE YOU RESUMING FENU? LOW TEMPS CAN BE A SIGN OF LIVER NOT FUNCTIONING AS IT SHOULD. WHICH T HORMONES GET CONVERTED FROM 4 TO 3 IN ITS ACTIVE FORM.

YES, I BELIEVE GROWTH IS BETTER(FASTER) IN A WARMER BODY. A WARMER BODY HAS HEALTHY PROGESTERONE AND THYROID LEVELS (GOOD LIVER FUNCTION TOO).

SO THYROID HORMONES AFFECT EVERY SINGLE CELL IN THE BODY. SO MUCH THAT IF YOUR THYROID IS OFF, YOUR FACE LOOKS DIFFERENT AND BODY. SO THINK ATOMIC CHANGES.

BO CAN WORK FOR YOU AS IT HAS FOR ME, BUT MAKE SURE YOU ARE HEALING YOUR WHOLE ENDOCRINE SYSTEM AT THE SAME TIME IF YOU SUSPECT THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH YOUR ADRENALS, PITUITARY OR THYROID.

Hey Princess T! Sorry I am soooo late to respond. As you know, I have been having a lot of life changes going on, but now I am back in the game

I have been researching and considering what I've been told and I have come to the conclusion that I most likely do not have a thyroid problem. Looking closely at my diet, I get sufficient amounts of magnesium, selenium, and iodine, so I do not have a deficiency in any of those.

My body must be converting T3 and T4 adequately, or I would be witnessing symptoms of hyperthyroidism, and I'm not, thankfully. Therefore, although my temps are low, are obviously not affecting my liver as much as people say it should.--phew!-- But, I will definitely look for any atomic changes of which you speak. Sometimes I think my nose is getting fatter , but then again, it can all be in my head as I have had a love-hate relationship with my nose my entire life.

I think, all that I REALLY needed to know was what you wrote above: that you were able to grow with low temps. THAT is important. Thank you for that. I was hoping that was the case, since (despite my low temps) it seems pretty clear that I have no reason to have a low functioning thyroid, nor do I have most of the symptoms of one (only sleepiness, haha! which can easily be explained by messing with my hormones). My only concern left was that the temps would not be high enough to grow from, but my reasoning was that somehow my body must be synthesizing the T3 and T4 hormones, because I have not become hyperthyroid, either. And your case just confirmed that. Thank you.

But, referring to the other things you mentioned, how does one look at their adrenal and thyroid output? My DHEA tested as 583ng/dL (range: 102-1185), my TSH w/ reflex to T4 is 1.23 mIU/L and that's all I've got from your list mentioned above. Both seem pretty healthy (my doctor didn't have anything to say about it, and you KNOW she would have been on that trying to give me something for it right away if there were a problem with it!) and given that everything else I have ever had tested other than my testosterone and Vitamin D is of a very balanced healthy level, I could only imagine that everything else is, too... because there is much truth behind once one thing is out of balance, so are many others with it. I will be sure to get those which you have mentioned tested when I get a new doctor and get my hormones tested again sometime in the summer. I think I will get my hormones tested once every year. I think I can afford that and that should be helpful enough, hopefully.

Thank you. I will always remember to keep these concerns in mind!