[surferjoe2007]

MSM makes collagen from protein the same way they use sulfur to vulcanize soft gummy rubber into hard rubber tires. It is not hormonal like most herbs are. And you don't need to combine it with collagen; that's two of the same thing. Besides making the entire body springy including the breasts, lack of the material can be a bottleneck to growth just like lack of fat would. Some women have grown from MSM alone, though I doubt it is the only thing holding back most people.

It would be good to add for anyone who doesn't already eat a lot of MSM, chicken's feet, beef tendon, tripe, bone broth or meat skin. Collagen supplements OTOH are worthless because unless you take it by the large scoopful it can't match food nor make a difference in the amount of tissue in your body. It would be like trying to gain weight with little lard pills.