[ThinkPositive]

Yes sounds good you should be able to gain without hormones like timarie said try a pump cheaper ones are available but check reviews there are other supplements useful for nbe that are non hormonal my favourite is msm some people grow from just taking this in high doses I have been taking only 6-9g msm powder and 2g vitamin c and I have noticed more firmness in just 2 weeks while I'm waiting to add bo.

Thanks for the advice I have had msm before as a face cream lol never knew it was good for NBE though, how interesting! Is there any side effects or does it need to be paired with anything for it to work (you mentioned vit c?or it that not essential for the msm)?

I am meant to be on vit c 500 x 3 a day for health reasons but often forget!