[AbiDrew85]

Impressive - I love geeky things too ! It's great to meet someone objective!

Haha! Thanks!

I'm privileged that you confided the info of your massage with me. If it's been working for you then it's by far as good as any!

Shoot... Now you're praising me a little too much imo...

Do you think it worth continuing massage with fenugreek after starting with the PM cream? The smell is driving me crazy - unfortunately it's more like curry than maple syrup! I wake up every day smelling like I spilt a ton of curry sauce down myself the night before and never bothered to change!

Honestly... Dunno. I don't massage with anything BUT straight up pure liquid PM extract, which is somewhere around 80% miroestrol and that's it's only real significant constituent though it has other phytosterols as well. It's something like 90% phytosterols and the rest is the solvent, which is a type of edible glycerin - I personally wouldn't trust anything not edible to massage with!

If you don't care for the smell... Yeah... I'd just leave it... It's totally up to you though.

I've been massaging with fenugreek at night and wild yam in the morning - maybe I should discontinue these?

They probably aren't doing much with topical use... They might be doing something, and it's again, entirely up to you, but I personally just don't like "remote maybes" and prefer something more concrete.

I've also been taking 3x 610mg fenugreek capsules per day and 3x 600mg saw palmetto capsules. Do you think the current fenugreek dosage in particular is too high to continue along with the PM?

Nah. If anything it might be lowballing. I've been taking up to more than double that, and in that particular case there's no significant difference between genetics and dosage suggestions.

I DO cycle though, and that does make a difference. Might try going to 4 or just leaving it alone. Either should be fine really.